@Minerboh80:

It's still sounding scary!

Less scary than sounding ….. 

@toonfan69:

Don't use Crisco with rubber clothing or condoms

Correct. Crisco dissolves latex and other rubber like stuff like neoprene.

If you get fisted with crisco …. don't expect a safe fuck afterward because any condom would tear up.

@toonfan69:

If you use a water based lubricant (j-lube, k-lube, aqueous cream) you can mix in a bit of voltarol (diclofenac) gel to help ease any painful feelings during the play

Personally I would never suggest to use any painkilling stuff for the fistee (bottom who is getting a fist) during the play

Because as a fistee you have to listen to your ass and body… and if your ass tells you to stop, you better stop. Your body tells you that you are not ready YET. So listen to your body.

Supressing feelings of pain will get you "over the edge" more easily and that can cause pains and a sore ass for days or longer. Been there, done that..

And diclofenac can be very harmful to people. For me it can cause acute serious health injury to my kidneys... so be careful with that..

@bananaboys:

if there's any chems involved

Yup

Loosing control is all the fun  …
The problem is: WITH chems sex is much hornier, longer lasting, more intense ... and ... and ... and ...
BUT on chems it is very hard to keep it safe ...

I couldn't 
Nevertheless ... I am still enjoying my sex life a lot  :cheesy2:

Everyone has to decide for himself what he think is important.

Your life is your own responsability. And when you are gone, there is no one to blame you for that.

Always prefer bare with poz guys like me … 

Always safe with others. Unless they insist ....

Yes there is always a risk of STD's, but I get regularly tested 3 - 4 times a year.

I am together with my poz hubby for 28 years now

For me the safe sex campaigns late '80 - '90's didn't bother me at that time. My relationship at that time was very close and monogamous and always without condoms.

By the time we started to experiment (now some 10 years ago) playing safe was frustrating, we both didn't manage to do that.

No particular care is needed afterward

Just use a lot - and i really mean a lot!! - of crisco and j lube while fisting…