@amicusets:

More scared of a Hillary presidency than a "true" Trump supporter, but having met him several times, he isn't as stupid as he is being portrayed by the media.

I really don't understand why it is always "the media". The media has nothing to do with it. Its the stupid, unpolished shit he says (and tweets) that makes him look stupid. The media haven't doctored his words, actions and policies, they have just reported and commented on it.

I believe that he is different in real life, but unfortunately that doesn't matter. This is the side of him the American people get to experience either in his campaign or as president

Every time I here about this case I just have more questions. He was convicted earlier of perverting the course of justice with the first murder.

He left the guy on a bench and called the 999 saying there was a young guy seizing outside. Later investigation showed story inconsistency hence the conviction. How that then turns into 3 more murders I have no idea.

Also what kind of crazy dosages was this man using? I am the furthest thing from a chem sex guy but I am aware it is a thing. Surely you would have to really be going for it to OD such a variety of people, body types and tolerances.
I'd like to know if chem sex was ever mentioned in the initial messaging. Or just general [cray cray] signs to look out for.

This is literally on my doorstep. I walk through abbey where the bodies were dumped once a week.

@amicusets:

More scared of a Hillary presidency than a "true" Trump supporter, but having met him several times, he isn't as stupid as he is being portrayed by the media.

I really don't understand why it is always "the media". The media has nothing to do with it. Its the stupid, unpolished shit he says (and tweets) that makes him look stupid. The media haven't doctored his words, actions and policies, they have just reported and commented on it.

I believe that he is different in real life, but unfortunately that doesn't matter. This is the side of him the American people get to experience either in his campaign or as president

From the UK but I have been following whthis election pretty avidly. You just couldn't write this stuff! Its been better than the most reality TV.

Trump-
A ridiculous choice. I really don't mean to be offensive but I honestly believe anyone that would consider him either hasn't been "plugged in" to this election or is just daft.

Hillary-
I genuinely don't understand what everyone's issue is.
Emails (meh).
Pay2play- Again, nothing new. At least the money was actually going to charity work. And frankly if some back door dealing is what's needed to get the power players in Middle East to the table so be it.
Basket of deplorbles- Umm, bang on the money.

Johnson-
A wasted vote and also seems like a moron

Stein-
A wasted vote and is unrealistic.

Just read the story and shock of my life. I live in Barking! It's not a big place, he definitely would have shown up if I were still using apps. Thankfully at 28 Im probably a little above his hunting range.

How the fuck did I not know this happened?

That's just creepy.

Dennis Reed off the top of my head

I can actually see the grey in this. My family runs an emmergency accomodation for homeless individuals discharged from mental health hospitals. As you can imagine things can get hairy very quickly. The worst situations are usually from drug users and the types of people that they bring.

I believe that we should have the power to refuse "service" to someone if we anticipate dangerous situations. Having to wait for it to actually is ridiculous. We are trying to do a community service (obviously we are paid) but at the same time we aren't equipped like a secure unit.

The flip side is a rule like "privately owned business have the right to …"
Well unfortunately that blanket statement doesn't work either. The vast majority of businesses are privately owned. I doubt you would love starbucks refusing service.

@shynquietguy:

On the other hand if you mean "Are people watching these barebacking videos and then being influenced by them into thinking it's all cool and awesome and no worries to run out and do the same?" then that's just silly. Sure, like with violent films, video games, etc. every once in a blue moon there's going to be that one nutcase with a very low IQ who sees something on film and feels the urge to mimic it in real life, but they're, thankfully, extremely rare, and their stupidity-fueled actions are in no way to blame on the media they consumed.

You are thinking in extreme's.

Porn influences sex in a multitude of ways. Hell I can even say that it has had some influence on the type of people I am atracted to, the way I view my body and the habits I keep to influence what I look like.

I pretty much exclusively watch bareback videos. (To me they are just hotter)

On the occasions that I have slipped up and been stupid in sex. Is it possible that has had effect?  Maybe.

Its obviously not the sole or even main reason obviously.

@shynquietguy:

@yababylol:

I don't think I've ever met someone who honestly believes this. It's a very old, old idea. I don't think it even survived the 90's.

You'd be amazed how ignorant a huge piece of the population is in 2016. I was having brunch with a group of co-workers on Easter and someone mentioned that they're aunt was in the hospital due to AIDS complications and a man and his wife were there and were absolutely shocked to hear that a woman had AIDS. They thought that it was literally impossible for a woman to get it, and that only gay men could get AIDS, and could only get it by having sexual contact with each other.

These are college educated adults who thought this.

Oh that doesn't suprise me at all. I my experience knowledge about HIV and AIDS is appalinglly low outside of the gay and medical community. I basically don't talk about it with straight people, as I have heard some pretty ridiculous nonsense out there. 100% true samples below:

-HIV isn't spread by sex, it is actually spread by mosquitoes (explaining it's prevalence in sub-saharan Africa)
-People with AIDs have acid-like blood that causes there muscles to "literally consume themselves"
-HIV positive people need to have seperate cutlery.

• Couldn't be friends with an HIV+ person (um, how do you know you aren't already)

I am sure I am forgetting some gems

I'm sorry if that came across more confrontational than intend, it's not an argument. I actually gathered that the statement for what it was.

The only thing we disagree on is that high risk behaviour is due to lack of education.

Every time I've had the situation crop up with a guy its pretty much always been a case of them actively ignoring the risks as apposed to them not understanding that they should be safe. I'll admit that there is a range in people's understanding of nuances of the risk itself but all the same, they know the overall message.

A lot people I've met use self justifications like, "Even if I get it. It's not a big deal" but when you follow up with with, "Well do you actually want to get it?" The answer is always no.

I will admit that the whole Prep thing does have people confused.