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      hubrys last edited by

      https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting

      22-year old armed and armored gunman entered lgbtq Club Q in Colorado Springs, CO and opened fire. So far, they have announced 5 dead and 25 injured. Police have not released a motive yet.

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        djsoapbubble @hubrys last edited by

        @hubrys One thing I can say is that I'm glad that two courageous patrons at the club grabbed the suspect and detained him. Also, the first officer was dispatched at 11:57 p.m. Police arrived in a matter of 3 minutes.

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          Rotron last edited by

          Why does this still happen in America? This is just heart-breaking. It breeds hatred, sadness and agony.

          Not to compare but rarely would you hear anything like this happening in Asia that is gay-related.

          To consider the advancement of technology, society, law and a lot of other things America could be proud of, this still exists - gay-related and not. So many shootings. The ability and availability of guns and other weapons in the United States is just too easy even with all the laws.

          It's not legal to own a gun in Japan or South Korea. China has the strictest rules in the world in regards to owning a gun or some other weapon but that's another thing because they are just making sure the general public won't have the means to fight back against communism but for a country where being gay is illegal nothing like this ever happens.

          It's legal to own a gun in my country but still, nothing like what keeps happening in America.

          Owning one gun is already something but being able to equip oneself with a multitude of weapons by a member of the general society is very concerning.

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            raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

            https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/accused-colorado-gay-bar-shooter-non-binary-uses-pronouns-attorney/

            Turns out that the shooter is "non-binary" and uses they/them and Mx, according to his lawyer's filing for the case.

            He was previously arrested, but not prosecuted, for making a bomb threat against his mother.

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              Rotron @raphjd last edited by

              @raphjd Hmmm let's see how this progresses then. I still do not understand about how being a non-binary is so I won't be able to say much but then the availability of guns really is getting worst.

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                eobox91103 @raphjd last edited by

                @raphjd said in Colorado Springs Gay Nightclub Shooting:

                Turns out that the shooter is "non-binary" and uses they/them

                The shooter's attorney has said this, but was the shooter "non-binary" before the shooting? On hearing this, my first reaction was that he/they/it was rather stupidly thinking that if he declared himself to part of the/ LGBTQIA+ community, then he wouldn't get a hate crime escalation.

                This is faulty logic. A person can be charged with a bias-related/hate crime even if they are a member of the target community. Furthermore, nullifying a hate crime escalation wouldn't reduce his sentence: If convicted [only] on five counts of first-degree homicide with no escalation, the shooter will still get life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. Prosecutors might not even pursue the hate crime escalation in court as it adds a lot of work and delay, and won't change the ultimate result.

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                  Rotron @eobox91103 last edited by

                  @eobox91103 So true! Whatever form, thing or gender, she / he / it / they (SHEIT) is still a killer. A 5x killer even. A killer is, yet still a killer. No amount of descriptive wordings ain't gonna change that.

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                    raphjd Forum Administrator @eobox91103 last edited by

                    @eobox91103

                    Did you read the link I posted?

                    CBS said he changed his name just before turning 16 because he was being bullied online.

                    Months earlier, when he was 15, a website with photos of Brink targeted him with ridicule, The Post reported. Additionally, a YouTube account was opened in his name that included an animation titled “Asian homosexual gets molested.”
                    

                    Also, the main reason I posted this was because liberal media immediately jumped to reporting this as a conservative, most likely MAGA, white man.

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                      Rotron last edited by

                      Okay! I just saw a video of the guy. She, he, it is pretty much beaten. Ugh! 😵

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                        eobox91103 @raphjd last edited by

                        @raphjd said in Colorado Springs Gay Nightclub Shooting:

                        Did you read the link I posted?

                        No. I don't read links that you post.

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                          raphjd Forum Administrator @eobox91103 last edited by

                          @eobox91103

                          Of course not.

                          I bet if I only posted MSNBC, CNN, Slate, Salon and The Root you would though.

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                            eobox91103 @raphjd last edited by

                            @raphjd Let us remember that this thread is not in the Politics and Debate section. Here, we talk about issues, not other people.

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                              raphjd Forum Administrator @eobox91103 last edited by

                              @eobox91103

                              No. I don't read links that you post.
                              

                              I'll just leave this here, for the next time you want to tell me the rules.

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                                Intriguing story, I'll be subscribing for a followup

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                                  eobox91103 @Guest last edited by

                                  @ianfontinell I hope the response in Colorado Springs--and elsewhere in the US--is forward-looking: One of healing, inclusion, tuning-up of red-flag laws, etc. The focus should not be on the shooter. That creature is locked up and will stay way until the end of its life.

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