Spore/Spores is now a pronoun
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@soraspeir81's whole argument in this thread was based strictly (and dishonestly) on Spore/Spores as pronouns. This was intentional because if his argument was based on all the idiotic made-up pronouns (and genders), then he has absolutely no argument.
Even on the bogus premise, he tried to argue, people are demanding that I, me specifically, use their preferred pronouns by getting laws passed that require me to use whatever stupidity they come up with.
Canada, Scotland, California, and many others have passed laws that require people to use these words or be guilty of hate crimes. England does not have such a law, so the police invented "non-crime hate incidents". While it has no bearing in law, they put it on your criminal record as if you were convicted of it. This can prevent you from getting a job, credit, rental agreements, etc, etc, etc. Despite the UK Supreme Court telling them to stop it, it still happens.
Jordan Peterson got famous directly because of Canada's law, which he objected to.
Many universities also require the use of preferred pronouns or you canbe expelled.
Social media does as well.
Liberals need to be blatantly dishonest in these discussions, in order to "win" and at the same time pretend things are not as bad as they really are.
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As far as bannings go, I have perma-banned very few people over the last 16 years. If you include F46660T and his 3 other accounts, I have reached a whopping 10 perma-bans.
@hubrys should have been banned on our first encounter for breaking the site rules outside of the Politics section.
Not surprisingly, the people that complain about me handing out (perma or temp) bans are the same people that defend it when social media sites do it. Nor do they complain when other gay sites ban people for having discussed their conservative views.
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@manrmen-0 Isn't that the Q part? From what Ive experienced, its the Q people who come up with the various pronouns. The trans men and women I've met generally identify as the gender they live as.
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I'd say you are right.
The thing is, some people call themselves "trans" but then go on to describe themselves as queer.
I have no issues with normal trans people, but I find the queers extremely tiresome.
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1990s Trans movement: Let us be free to live as individuals. No street bashing, no job or housing discrimination. Give us self-defense (eg. gun ownership) and other reasonable self-determination.
2020s Woke-MAP-Queer-Trans movement: Let unstable males into any & all female safe spaces, wrecking them. Let unstable males wreck female sports, steal Women's awards, compel/dictate other people's speech, and groom kids for sexual abuse, mutilating surgeries (perhaps), future prostitution & sex addiction, etc.
Supporting the one is a no-brainer.
Opposing the other, also a no-brainer.
What's bad about Caitlyn Jenner is that she works both.
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@raphjd Is it one of those situations where all Queer people are technically trans, but all trans people arent necessarily queer? Almost like identifying as "trans" is a stepping stone on the path for most queer people.
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I think queer and trans are separate things, but it depends on how "queer" is defined. If we go with the traditional definition, then all LGBT++++++++ is queer. However, this isn't the way the queer community define it.
It seems that a lot of queer people realize that their actions are not well received by the majority, so they declare themselves as trans because trans is a lot more acceptable.
I don't personally know anyone who is against real trans people because they just want to get on with their life.
Queers are the ones that are combative and attention-seeking.
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Not just unfair but misogynist, anti-female: https://www.libsoftiktok.com/p/biological-male-who-was-72nd-on-boys?r=nvp2b
And it's happening all over America - many other instances.
In the name of 2020s woke-Trans.
(But not that all T support it! Many don't.)
