1 Star Rating Troll
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I have been noticing lately that my uploads have been rated with 1 stars. I have never had these before and most members that I have met here are happy that there is someone sharing what they like here.
I understand that the population of fans of Gay Romance Dramas, specifically what we call Boys Love, is quite small here in GayTor and that is the main reason why I have decided that this will be my way to contribute to our community here.
However, there seems to be someone now that is dedicated in to trolling my uploads with 1 stars. Now I know which titles are bad and not so these 1 star ratings does not seem to match and one is likely to research about a title first before downloading it and if they don't like it, then they move on.
I have never asked for seed bonus nor stars for my uploads. I am just happy to share what I like and have access to and of course I have dedicated time, effort and CPU energy to my uploads and this seems to be going against all what I have dedicated myself to.
I am not sure if I have offended someone because this seemed to have started happening after I have replied to a specific forum post about what boys love are today and what they were before. I am also not sure if there are some who does not generally like what I am sharing and there seems to be some kind of hatred and decided to 1 star my uploads because the TV Episodes category is being filled up by titles I have shared.
I didn't bother about the 1 stars at all before but this is quite disheartening as I know those 1 stars are for crap quality uploads which certainly mine are not. I never share low quality videos. They are all in HD and have good quality sound.
I just want to know if there are ways to avoid these trolls. Like one can only rate after downloading the torrent or can only submit a rating with comments as to why they give that rating. I also want to know if it's against rules to ask downloaders to rate my torrent.
Well, that's all to that. Trolls or not there wouldn't be much anything they could do. 1 star or 5 stars, downloaders know what they are downloading and they would only download ones that they want instead of wasting their ratio for downloading what they don't like at all but those 1 star ratings takes away potential downloaders who may be interested in watching the title and that is one of the reasons why I am sharing - is to share the love for boys and the lessons that come with them and not the hate. Potential downloaders may also misunderstand the 1 star thinking that the files uploaded are not what they are advertised about or of poor quality.
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@Rotron said in 1 Star Rating Troll:
downloaders know what they are downloading and they would only download ones that they want
Yes, that's the philosophy. I did a search for "boys love drama" and came up with 32 torrents that are probably yours--and a quick look at the page with some mental arithmetic shows that your torrents have been downloaded close to 500 times. This says a lot more about how much people appreciate your sharing than one angry troll.
That troll will be even angrier if he sees that all of those torrents now have an additional rating vote...for five stars. I wonder how that happened...
Please continue to share your material--many people appreciate it.
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@eobox91103 Thank you! I really appreciate it a lot. You help me push to be even braver and engage more in communicating with other members here. I was thinking that I might be bullied but now I know that there are people like you. You just made me smile.
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@Rotron I also notice that you put a comment about the 1-star rater on one of your uploads. I'd delete that asap. Getting a reaction from you is just feeding the troll and will encourage them to keep going.
I don't think anyone takes the start ratings here seriously anyway, because the system isn't very widely used so it is skewed by a handful of users who rate everything either 1 star or 5 stars. If your torrents are of interest to users and are well presented with good titles, descriptions and preview images, then they will attract downloaders regardless of the star rating they have.
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It's so common that I ignore 1-star ratings (rating, not the video) unless it has a lot of votes.
Another thing, if it's such a bad video, the person rating it will usually say why they don't like it in the comments.
Until the site is fully transferred over to .rent, @Joker won't be making any changes except for security issues. Right now he's also working on the login issue.
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@drekkin Point taken though there seems to be no way for me to delete my own comment on my own torrent post. Just like there is no way for me to edit my own comment on my own torrent upload. It seems like that will only work on comments made on some else' torrent upload and not on comments I made on my own post.
I only did that to deter who ever is doing it but it seems like it did not work because he 1 starred my latest post this morning just a few minutes after uploading it and there aren't even leechers yet so it was quite obvious.
I will just be ignoring it for now on and someday he'll notice that it's just a waste of his time but as we all know grudges or hatred can go a long way.
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@raphjd Yah me too. I usually just ignore them just like when I am looking for porn actors I like, the ratings does not really matter at all as long as it is their face and body and that the video is of good quality.
It's just that recently I noticed all those 1 stars on all my latest post that got me wondering as I don't usually get stars at all. It is so true what you @raphjd @drekkin and @eobox91103 have mentioned. My uploads will get the attraction regardless of the star rating and that members here will comment if there is something they did not like.
Thank you!
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@Rotron There has long been an obsession with issues surrounding the sexuality of young teens in the USA but more recently the conservative right have weaponised and misappropriated words like "groomer" to try to push back against LGBTQIA acceptance. People have been called "groomer" just because they've had a pride flag in their shop where minors might see it.
It is however a very effective strategy and very difficult to fight. So effective that it has created an internalised homophobia in the gay community so that adults are afraid of having anything at all to do with young teens, let alone admit that sexualisation happens by puberty, not my some miraculous event that occurs at midnight on the person's 18th, 16th, 15th, 14th birthday (depending on where they happen to live) and certainly not by seeing a pride flag or a drag queen.
I'm guessing you're getting one stars because of that.
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Leave it to you to make it political.
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Uhm that took some time for me to absorb but I remember I read about it somewhere. I don't get how that is connected to what I am experiencing but if you mean that the troll may be someone from the USA who belongs to that kind of thinking then he's living in his own small world. Big is the world and it is diverse, his will be crushed by the bigger reality. We here in Asia have something bigger to worry about than things like "grooming" and that's the communist. It seems to be that our problems today are still brought by old people carrying old teachings and all we can wait for is for the generation to change for the better and that happens every 20 to 30 years.
Yes, sexualization happens during puberty. I have been wanking since I was 10 and had my early experiences when I was 12 and had my only son at the age of 15. Get a load of that for a sexualization process. I grew up freely and I am happy for that. I stood on my own at an early age. No one in my family told me what and not what to be and do.
As for the people you are referring to, well, the world is big. Every shift in generation seems to be going the other way they want it to be because there is no stopping what is natural.
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@Rotron said in 1 Star Rating Troll:
I don't get how that is connected to what I am experiencing but if you mean that the troll may be someone from the USA who belongs to that kind of thinking then he's living in his own small world. Big is the world and it is diverse, his will be crushed by the bigger reality.
Exactly...the world is indeed diverse, which means people are entitled to their own opinion of something. As far as relating to the comments you get on your torrents, that person is entitled to their opinion, regardless of the reason(s) why.
As someone said in a previous reply, all that really matters is how many downloads/hits you get on your torrents. Peoples' opinions and the "votes" don't matter.
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@cinemacapman Yeah! So true and it's a fact. It can be bothersome though and ruins the presentation. I'm not paying much attention to it now as I'm busy catching up with past and current releases. It may seem like I'm bombarding the series category but I'm just playing catching up. There's a lot that I do not upload here like the ones from Brazil, Vietnam and there's a lot from the Philippines too. I'm just mainly uploading the ones from Thailand, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea.
One thing that I have observed is that the 1-Star Troll leaves drag shows alone. The troll skips them. I don't upload drag shows here but I do upload them on to another GT because I know someone else is doing that here already. I do not want to monopolize the category as I know there's a lot that I can not provide and not much time for anything else. I don't want others to feel that they don't have the chance. It gives me a smile though that my uploads on another GT also ends up being uploaded here which is perfectly fine with me.
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@Rotron said in 1 Star Rating Troll:
@cinemacapman Yeah! So true and it's a fact. It can be bothersome though and ruins the presentation.
One thing that I have observed is that the 1-Star Troll leaves drag shows alone. The troll skips them.
Two things:
- How does it "ruin the presentation"? Nothing is "ruined" simply because someone has given their opinion. Your upload is still there, as is the description and screenshots/pics...and people are still downloading your torrents.
Nothing is "ruined". - I think you should stop referring to whoever this person is as a "troll". They are not...they are simply giving their own entitled opinion (whatever their reason is regarding these Boys Love series), and it's just a bit misguided and somewhat rude to be referring to them as a "troll".
I am not defending nor condemning their opinion ratings, I am just trying to reason this out sensibly and logically, and to try to get you to see what I mean regarding this.
- How does it "ruin the presentation"? Nothing is "ruined" simply because someone has given their opinion. Your upload is still there, as is the description and screenshots/pics...and people are still downloading your torrents.
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@Rotron said in 1 Star Rating Troll:
One thing that I have observed is that the 1-Star Troll leaves drag shows alone. The troll skips them.
I forgot to mention...What do the drag shows have to do with this person's ratings on your uploads? Nothing, in fact. You make it sound as though that's some sort of selective discrimination. It's not. Again, that's just what he thinks of those particular type of "Boys Love" shows. It has nothing to do with any of the drag show uploads.
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@cinemacapman said in 1 Star Rating Troll:
I think you should stop referring to whoever this person is as a "troll".
Yet, you call things you don't agree with as "unfounded conspiracy theories".
That's quite hypocritical of you.
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@raphjd said in 1 Star Rating Troll:
Yet, you call things you don't agree with as "unfounded conspiracy theories".
That's quite hypocritical of you.
That's real brilliant and mature of you to hijack and misappropriate my comment from the Politics thread into this one where it has no relevance.
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You don't like getting busted with your own words, do you?
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@cinemacapman Hmmmm... this thread was already sleeping for the past 3 months as everything that has been discussed before were all okay for us and we all nodded in agreement on what is and should nots including those discussed of the same matter on other threads.
Well... until you came that is replying on this thread seemingly looking for an argument which everyone here did not. I have known you for the past months since I've been active here and you're pretty okay to me. BUT this totally changed my perspective of you, but of course you are going to counter that with "you are entitled to your own opinion". As others here may know, I do not participate in such things as beefing with other members. As a viewer of arguments, yes I enjoy that but participating in one... I'd rather invest my time on something else.
As per your sentences, it sounded like you have an affinity to this person that you are so against to call a "troll" which everyone knows is one of the site's problems as users are able to rate an upload without the member even downloading the torrent first which should not be.
I was really thinking of replying with just that emoticon but it's rather unintelligible so I wrote what's on my mind for your sake.
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I think this thread has run its course. I think we've all concluded that:
- Some person or people rather indiscriminately puts/put one-star ratings on some torrents.
- Those ratings do not seem to bear any correlation to the quality of said torrent.
- Those ratings could be seen as insulting to the uploader, but regardless of the rater's intention, the efforts of uploaders are to be appreciated.
- The overall star rating system is of questionable value.
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@cinemacapman You ones again have confronted me about this and I am putting this here just in case you have completely forgotten. Gosh! Why do I even bother with these characters. This is seriously making me think of moving to another tracker to use for my secondary releases.
cinemacapman says:
Why are you being overly critical about the person leaving 1 star ratings? Did it ever occur to you that this person may simply not think much of these "Boys Love" web series, and that it is simply his opinion which has nothing to do with "hatred", "a blackened heart", "hate", or "discrimination"? You're slapping a "troll" label on this person who is simply giving his or her personal opinion on these web episodes. They're entitled to whatever their opinion is.I said:
This is not the first time I've had this conversation with you. I would say the same thing to you why you are overtly in defense of such a person plaguing the website. Also how come you are aware that it is just this person's opinion? Are you saying you are familiar with this person? This is quite suspicious. I am sounding the alarm on this one.Labelling more than 20 torrent posts straight with 1-star requires a lot of effort. Hence, it is something that definitely can not be considered an opinion without hatred. Also, the Star Rating feature is not used for opinions because one has to download the file first before one could rate it in regards to its content (obviously broken and this is why this feature is being used this way in which this troll is rating post after post without even downloading them). If one has a negative opinion about a torrent or what is obviously here a specific category involving multiple listings, that person will simply not bother to download it nor even rate it. That person will just ignore it just like any other porn that a person is not interested in.
This has been discussed in the forums on several occasions and we had a unanimous opinion about this. Unfortunately, this can not be attended to at the moment as per the admins.
I simply answered a member's question which is not intended for you. I will give you the same answer as the one I gave you in the forums several months ago. I am not here to argue with anyone especially the likes of you. Comments are moderated and I already had conversations with mods and admins and other members who are aware of this problem.
You however, have definitely raised some suspicions. :hmmm:
You keep attacking me in the comments.
On another note, here is another of my replies to you that you may have simply ignored because you keep telling me what to do!I could do that. I would love to do that. The thing is, by the time the series gets completed members would already have found a way to get it somewhere else. Which I say is not good for Gaytor as a site. As you may have already known from the forums, this is not the only tracker I provide my uploads. This is just the secondary site wherein I upload my torrents here a few days after from the primary. Now, there is a reason for that. I already experimented the other way around but releases gets leaked between sites by others one way or another. I do not of course have any control over that. They are free to do so. That's how things work in torrent sites. so from time to time as long as I have the time I upload titles here and there at the same time. I sometimes also provide exclusive titles here. Also, I do coordinate uploads with other members too.
I only get an average of 15 or so downloads per torrent for new releases here and that can take a week to reach that number but on the primary site, an upload would reach 200 to 300 already within a day. 500 to 800 or so as it matures in a month. The demand for BL is big, you just don't see it here. It may be because of what happened before when GayTor lose a large number of users from a certain geographical area. My uploads for Western titles here do get quite popular but they are few. Asian countries seem to be releasing more gay-centered titles more than Western nations does. I really do hope that they catch up. Also, as we've all know about Western gay / LGBTQ titles, they tend to be more on the serious side and a lot ends with bad or unwanted endings. Gay life should not be. Gay life should be happy. That's what we are, against all the odds we encounter in our lives.
Also, if you notice -- a lot of uploads in this section are not even gay-centered / centric. The ones that shows naked / nude men only -- nothing about them is gay and they certainly do not belong to the rules but we do not report them because there are some of us who wants to see them, hence there is a demand so they stay. I have taken a look at past years upload trend and statistics for this category by it self and there would be days and weeks that there wouldn't even be any uploads at all, even when the dead torrents radio button has been ticked.
Losing the opportunity to upload an up-to-date episodic series is a lost for the site, members will certainly look somewhere else just to get what they want and I certainly would like to say that GayTor get to gain more members and this is one of the reasons why I do this here or else I wouldn't care to bother due to the low download counts I get here.
Don't worry, cinemacapman. This message is not just towards you but in general for those who may thought of the same way or another. I do took note of a member even complaining that they are having a hard time looking for titles they want due to the large number of uploads they do not like and they even requested that BLs should have it own category listing. I would say that my releases here are 100% compliant of laid rules and categorizing BLs as a separate type would be discriminative or communistic in nature or is that member implying that uploads be categorized by country or continent? :closedeyes:
@cinemacapman If you think I am lying, here's a preview for you.
This is just infuriating. Can someone please do something about this person?
