Seeder with large seeding list.
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I am currently the only leecher in a torrent with 1 seeder. I'm getting 1-3 kB/s, even though both the seeder and I are capable of much higher speed. When I check, the seeder is currently seeding 1070 torrents. My guess is that the slow speed I'm getting has something to do with the total amount of seeding torrents maxing out the seeder upload bandwidth. This isn't the first time I came across this situation. I thought about PM the seeder to suggest only seed torrents with less than 5 seeder if his intention is to keep the torrents alive, but I am afraid of coming across as condescending/rude.
Don't get me wrong. I am grateful that the seeder is still seeding this torrent, else it would be dead. But seeding it this way is useless if people can't download at all. My intention of starting this thread is to see if crowd wisdom can come up with solutions to educate people to stop seeding this way as it's of no benefit to the seeder or the downloader.
My suggestions:
1. Post this/similar advise up in the news section.
2. Limit everyone seeding to a number comparable to their average upload speed. ie: if your average upload speed is 50kB/s your max upload slot/seed is 20 torrents. Seed anymore than that simultaneously and only the first 20 torrent will be recognised. -
I can definitely understand your frustrartion with the download process. Unfortunately, it is not always possible to guarentee a download speed for various reasons. In the case of a user seeding multiple torrents, depending on the configurations outlined in their preferences, other factors may come into account. One such example is traffic shaping. Most ISP's will throttle a user's connection speeds when using P2P networks on a larger scale. Other factors to take into account are the number of active torrents (i.e. if they're already connected to 6 other users on other torrents, sometimes a lower speed may result).
It may also be possible that the number of active torrents that the user is seeding may drop, depending on network traffic demand, so there is a possible light at the end of the tunnel. As well, once the download process is complete, it could prove to be an incentive for traffic to be directed to you instead, as the tracker will generally take preference over the fastest available connection.
What does this mean for you? If there is still (or there is future) demand for the torrent in question, it would mean the majority of traffic would likely be directed to you, resulting in a great ratio booster for yourself. Although it may be frustrating, it does open a world of possibilities for you to boost your ratio in the end.
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The system at GT.ru will only allow 15 connections regardless of how many torrents are available to seed in any users list.
Perhaps a polite PM asking him to suspend some of the other uploads would work in your favor. He can only seed at his max whether 1 torrent or 15 are seeding.
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The system at GT.ru will only allow 15 connections regardless of how many torrents are available to seed in any users list.
Thank You for the information. You learn something new every day.
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The system at GT.ru will only allow 15 connections regardless of how many torrents are available to seed in any users list.
Thank You for the information. You learn something new every day.
That is new to me as well, I was aware of a downloading limit of 15 max. depenting on ratio / upload / user status (unless donator), but not of a uploading or active limit. For example my (hidden) Profile shows 33 active torrents while uploading a new.
What do you mean with "connections", active torrents?
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In your uTorrent or BitTorrent, when you open the options window, there are two options to look for. Look in the "Queueing" section for the maximum number of active torrents. This setting sets a cap on the maximum number of torrents that your client will let you upload/download combined at one time. So if you've set the maximum number of active torrents to 5, even if you have 30 torrents seeding, your client will only allow up to 5 of them (4 if you're downloading 1 torrent) to be actively uploading/downloading at a time.
The second option is under the bandwidth section. I generally put a maximum upload rate cap on my BitTorrent for the simple fact of if you don't cap the upload just under the throttle point, my ISP likes to use traffic shaping to make everything slow to a crawl until you disconnect your active P2P sessions.
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In your uTorrent or BitTorrent, when you open the options window, there are two options to look for. Look in the "Queueing" section for the maximum number of active torrents. This setting sets a cap on the maximum number of torrents that your client will let you upload/download combined at one time. So if you've set the maximum number of active torrents to 5, even if you have 30 torrents seeding, your client will only allow up to 5 of them (4 if you're downloading 1 torrent) to be actively uploading/downloading at a time.
The second option is under the bandwidth section. I generally put a maximum upload rate cap on my BitTorrent for the simple fact of if you don't cap the upload just under the throttle point, my ISP likes to use traffic shaping to make everything slow to a crawl until you disconnect your active P2P sessions.
If you are replying to my question, it doesn't answer it, because it was addressed to leatherbear….
(ho started to speak about a limit of 15 "connections" by our tracker. -
@Uwe:
If you are replying to my question, it doesn't answer it, because it was addressed to leatherbear….
(ho started to speak about a limit of 15 "connections" by our tracker.My bad
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If I am mistaken then just say so. This information was given to me very early on in my membership by a mod that is no longer a mod.
I am sorry for the misinformation ???
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Leatherbear, in case you're mistaken, you're already forgiven for a long time :hug2:
So you like that new blushing icon it was really missing here in GT, and I guess Mgr added it recently after a user's request :whistle:Imho, there are icons that should be replaced in the Forum, and even if you choose another "Current Smiley Set" in your Forum profiles ("look and layout preferences"), there's still something missing, explanations :
Default smiley set :
Classic smiley set :
Sarcasmic smiley : no thx lolWouldn't it be better to have this in the Forum :
or 
(last one seems to be the same as in torrents comments or email boxes)And it's same "problem" for most little Forum smileys : they could be changed for something more expressive, I'm talking about those ones :
:-X ![😕](https://community.gaytorrent.ru/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/apple/1f615.png?v=hvqg2qn0nb4 ":-\")
etc…My guess is most of the basic smileys in the Forum were chosen because they are SMALL
compared to bigger ones who would maybe take more place with bigger line intervals in a post but well, that one is small too…though it's "very yellow" lolAnd this ends this post...which has nothing to do with this topic :
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This 2nd message happens to me when I "quote" my own precedent message instead of "modify" it to correct typos
In fact, I'm wondering if one should be allowed to quote his own message in the same topic, depending on those 2 conditions :
- Precedent message is from the same user
- Precedent message is still editable (written less than 2 hours)
If these 2 conditions are true, one shouldn't be allowed to quote his own precedent message (as soon as you click on "quote" , an alert should appear to block you, so you can only modify your precedent message written less than 2 hours ago, when noone replied in the interval)
Please Mods, feel free to delete this last message, thx
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This is why I always say that people need to set their BT clients up to suit their broadband speeds.
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They may have set it up correctly. With our tracker having the scarpe switched off, the torrent client is obliged to "start" a torrent to see if there are peers and if it is wanted. However, it will count only actively seeding torrents as "seeding", so 1000 seeding torrents can mean 10 set as active limit and 990 just started to see wich ten to seed.
Of course 1000 is exessive, the torrent client will spend too much in communicating with the tracker and peers.
There are many other factors which can make upload rates low: being not connectible, super-seeding (initial seeding), ISP traffic shaping, …
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I generally leave the last 30 torrents files I have downloaded seeding in my client. I liked em enough to download them so someone else will want it to I'd think, but which one will someone need? So my theory was around 30 would be a random sampling. Even so it is very rare that more than 1 is seeding and more often than not there are zero active torrents. Do I just have bad taste or is there that many more seeders than leechers?
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@Uwe:
Of course 1000 is exessive, the torrent client will spend too much in communicating with the tracker and peers.
Exactly the point I'm trying to make.
Soon after my initial post, another seeder came online and the torrent was flying at 100 kB/s+. This person has <600 seeding torrents and a big upload pipe (160 kB/s+ average upload speed).
Back on topic. I've just gone through the site Rules and FAQs and I think they need some cleaning up for easier reading. Perhaps a simpler set of rules that's presented to new member at the first login would help fix this and other problems. The GT.ru 10 Commandments I made up below cover most of the important points of the Rules section. Each rules can be link to another page with full explanation and examples. The main things to avoid are center format everything and walls of text. Numbers and letters are easier to refer to than dot points.
GayTorrents.ru 10 Commandments
1. Thou shou not use multiple GT.ru account on the same internet account.
2. Thou shou not upload GT.ru torrents to other trackers.
3. Thou shou not upload duplicate files or banned materials.
4. Thou shou not seed more than 20 torrents at a time.
5. Thou shou not post clickable link to external website.6. Thou shou meet or exceed minimum ratio requirement.
7. Thou shou provide appropriate title, descriptions and preview images when uploading a new torrent.
8. Thou shou treat other members with respect.
9. Thou shou check into GT.ru forum regularly and participate in the community.
10. Thou shou search and read FAQs before posting new enquiry.Do I just have bad taste or is there that many more seeders than leechers?
The general rule is that the torrents with the most exposure get the most downloads. At the top of the list is the new torrents on the first few pages, then the server top 30 list on the front page, then the 3 recommended torrents at the top of every page. The really popular torrents will also have many seeders so the leechers won't necessarily download from you. If your goal is to seed and keep your ratio up then get in early on new torrents or upload some yourself.
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GayTorrents.ru 10 Commandments
1. Thou should not use multiple GT.ru account on the same Internet account.
2. Thou shall not upload GT.ru torrents to other trackers.
3. Thou should not upload duplicate files or banned materials.
4. Thou should not seed more than 20 torrents at a time.
5. Thou should not post clickable link to external website.6. Thou should meet or exceed minimum ratio requirement.
7. Thou should provide appropriate title, descriptions and preview images when uploading a new torrent.
8. Thou should treat other members with respect.
9. Thou should check into GT.ru forum regularly and participate in the community.
10. Thou should search and read FAQs before posting new inquiry.:rotfl: Excellent list indeed :jaj:
BTW: I did edit this list some what
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I often seed more than 20 torrents, however I have a cap on my torrent client set to not allow more than 5 active torrents at any given time in order to help with my overall speeds.
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I've just gone through the site Rules and FAQs and I think they need some cleaning up for easier reading. Perhaps a simpler set of rules that's presented to new member at the first login would help fix this and other problems. The GT.ru 10 Commandments I made up below cover most of the important points of the Rules section. Each rules can be link to another page with full explanation and examples. The main things to avoid are center format everything and walls of text. Numbers and letters are easier to refer to than dot points.
Hi all
I totally agree with thangcuoi's reflexion concerning the complexity of how rules, FAQ and crucial Forum informations are actually found here and there on GT's site.It's a very ambitious project to rewrite and concentrate all crucial informations in ONE (and only one) main page (each line of it being a "commandment" that links to one (and only one !) other explicative page (diagrams and pics are welcome in the linked pages, much more than words !)
I'm not sure 10 commandments will be enough in the main page, but it's important that everyone here would participate in the development of this new concept, bringing his own ideas in a friendly way, forgetting all ego problems in the conception of all this (sorry if the words I use aren't very explicit but english is not my 1st language)
What's difficult in our world is to be able to think in the place of other persons, like if you were them : think you're a newbie and you access the site : you'll be lost with all those terms seeding, leeching, connectable (connectible ?), ratio, upload speed, etc… etc... and you'll be lost in all links as they exist now, trying to find the good info.
And of course Mods/Admins have to manage with this daily, answering the same questions over and over, it becomes routine to them and I truly admire them for being so patient, especially they do this for free. If they were paid for that, we'd say : "well it's their JOB and they have to do it to be paid" but as they do it for free, it truly means they like to HELP people, thanks so much to all of you, Mods/Admins
Now will this project be useful or will it be a waste of time ?
Who can answer that now ? I can't.But it seems interesting to think about it all of us and discuss if there's a need in doing that or not.
Of course the selfish users will think : "why should I care with this project, I manage my own torrents very well and I won't spend one second in helping anybody here !"Some other users will think : "what will be the use ? Some guys just don't READ anything, no matter how you will condense your commandments in one main page !"
Well...each one has the right to think his own way, but other users who like to help would maybe interested in this new project and bring their own ideas and criticism during the development of the commandements and linked pages.
Just an example : I spent a couple of hours this night, trying to help a user (in the french section) who can't upload. I did a complete successfull test for him, using the "manual upload" in GT because I NEVER uploaded anything manually until now (as I only use QTM associated to Utorrent and all goes fine each time), but as this user doesn't use QTM, I wanted to see if it was difficult (or not) to upload something in this manual way.
I won't ask you to read the french post I write, but please, have a look at the 7 pics attached at the end of the post, that's imho what should be found in most of the link explicative pages we're talking about : diagrams and pics, instead of endless sentences (as I'm writing now lol) . Here is the link where the 7 pics can be found :
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=13015.msg55419#msg55419Well I already wrote too much (we, latins, write too much usually, compared to other cultures who are more direct and concise in their sentences). It would be great to have your comments on all of this
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I can't speak for the English side, but I will soon be in the process of fine tuning everything to create a guide based on the information you have submitted in the French forum as it is very valueable.
Well posted
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I see some problems in "10 Commandments of GayTorrent.ru"
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the different parts (accounts, forum, torrents …) are mixed together.
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If someone is able (and, more important: willing) to create a structured plan how this page (and the linked follow-up pages) have to be structured: I'm open for discussions but I need active help beside my daily work load on the site to manage such an ambitious task.
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as much as I like guides with pictures: those guides (for example creating a torrent) are rather problematic: I can't create such a pictured guide for Vuze because I use uTorrent myself (and installed Azureus (now Vuze) only once because I had to reformat my hard drive to remove all remnants of Azureus after un-installing the software
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The number of users who have a look at our offered help files is more than discouraging! (Take as an example the pictured guide how to search for duplicate torrents before uploading only 39 out of currently 268 members with auto approval privilege really read that guide :cry2: )
But as I said before: I'd be glad if some members would help with a redesign of our collected help informations which are in fact way too wide spread over the complete site.
Don't forget though: there are many members (about three quartes) who never bothered to visit our forum :cry2:
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