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      kawfee69 last edited by

      Let's say I know a guy who wants to migrate to EU or to be specific, France. Here is his situation

      Can an undetectable (VL<20, CD4 500 and increasing) healthy HIV positive guy migrate to France? I am a medical related professional from SE Asia, seeking for a better future there. I am taking Lamivudine/Zidovudine and Efavirenz drug cocktails so I am also wondering how much will it cost there?

      Any ideas?  🙂

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        Aleedinver last edited by

        I don't think HIV positive people are banned from immigration in EU, they are not epidemic (unless he comes to do sex with every women of EU without condom).
        On the price I don't know, sorry.

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          kawfee69 last edited by

          I see, I was thinking of the blood tests or any health related tests before he will be granted EU citizenship

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            Aleedinver last edited by

            Naturalization (obtainig citizenship) is something that depend on the time you live and work in France (and possibly if you do military service, you married a french etc…) and don't depends on your diseases... BUT I guess there may be some problems if you have not a work (or you have very poor income) and the cures are payed by the state. If this is not the case only epidemics can be a problem in immigration (ebola for example).

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              metloe last edited by

              Been going through the process of the whole HIV thing for Australia for about 2 years now…exhausting and expensive...

              This website may be helpful? hivtravel dot org (not sure if allowed to post websites so i put it like that)

              You can put the country from the drop down menu and it gives you some information on that countries regulations.

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                rfaddict last edited by

                Hey,

                As a French I can tell you that there is no blood testing or any health related tests that will be done if your friend wants to migrate here.

                French citizens do not pay for their HIV meds. If your friend migrates to France legally, and has valid work/asilum visa, it will grants him social security, and so, free hiv meds.

                FYI the price of combivir in France (Lamivudine/Zidovudine original drug) is €295, its generic drug (unbranded) costs €160.
                Original Efavirenz costs €315, its generic drug costs €139.

                Hope this helps, don't hesitate if you have any other questions.

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                  kawfee69 last edited by

                  @rfaddict:

                  Hey,

                  As a French I can tell you that there is no blood testing or any health related tests that will be done if your friend wants to migrate here.

                  French citizens do not pay for their HIV meds. If your friend migrates to France legally, and has valid work/asilum visa, it will grants him social security, and so, free hiv meds.

                  FYI the price of combivir in France (Lamivudine/Zidovudine original drug) is €295, its generic drug (unbranded) costs €160.
                  Original Efavirenz costs €315, its generic drug costs €139.

                  Hope this helps, don't hesitate if you have any other questions.

                  Thank you so much for the reply. He is very happy to hear that  🙂

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                    MrMazda Global Moderator last edited by

                    It's quite interesting to see the European pricing, especially since the cost of the meds across the pond in North America is stifling by comparison to say the least. As a general rule, any regime within North America will cost you at least a good $3000 per month just for those meds alone, much less any of the meds that you may need to take for their side-effects.

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                      kawfee69 last edited by

                      @MrMazda:

                      It's quite interesting to see the European pricing, especially since the cost of the meds across the pond in North America is stifling by comparison to say the least. As a general rule, any regime within North America will cost you at least a good $3000 per month just for those meds alone, much less any of the meds that you may need to take for their side-effects.

                      That is why he chose to migrate to EU. It is basically better in most of the things there from healthcare, education system and the list goes on. Besides, the current gun laws in the US really creep both of us out. It really makes me wonder also how do the US citizens survive with that high cost of living especially the healthcare  :afr: :afr:

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                      • MrMazda
                        MrMazda Global Moderator last edited by

                        Most of them end up coming to Canada because we have a much better healthcare system in terms of the costs and such…. For example: in Canada, if you call an ambulance because you're having a heart attack, get rushed to the hospital by ambulance only to go in for an emergency quadruple bypass surgery and spend 48 hours in the ICU recovering before being transferred to a more suitable location in the hospital where you spend the next week, the ONLY bill that you'll ever see is a mere $50 for the ambulance... As for our counter-part in the USA, this is not the case.

                        I'm kind of with you on the idea of moving to the EU, simply because there's a lot of stuff that seems much better off there, healthcare being one such thing. As for the US gun laws, I've never understood them myself.... After all, the US is the country that put out such advertising campaigns as "Ladies, teach your daughters to shoot... After all, a restraining order is just a piece of paper!" :lolp:

                        Granted, that ad does have some truth to it, but nevertheless, it is still way too easy to acquire a gun in the United States, even compared to Canada, which is why you hear more about mass stabbings in Canada than shootings. :hehe:

                        All that being said though, I'd rather be in the cold, white North than in the deep south where the motto is "I fucks what I feeds!" lol

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                          kawfee69 last edited by

                          I know right, they keep making fun of the Canadians and the Europeans but IMO they just envied the privileges of living there  ::)

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