If your not going to seed…
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If your not going to seed…
DON'T DOWNLOAD!!!
I posted a torrent for a file (Wild Rangers 2) a little over 4 hours ago. File has been completely leeched 13 times, and only 4 (FOUR!) of those people are still in the swarm as seeders.
That's less than 1/3 of the first to get the file. If enough people don't seed early on, the torrent will die real quick.
I was on a LAN line with excellent upload rate, so I was able to get the file to people really fast. Now I am home and seeding from home is more typical rate. Where are the others?
I just don't understand the mindset of people who take take take without giving back. Even more than the issue of seeding to a ratio of 1.0, when you are among the first to get a file, it is critical to seed TIME. That gets the ball rolling until enough have it to allow drop-outs. And it allows me, the uploader, to stop uploading exclusively and get me some downloaded porn.
So if you aren't going to share, wait a while to download the file, so you don't give the initial upload skewed numbers.
Sorry about this rant, but I am really pissed off and venting.
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Don't be sorry, you should be angry. People like that don't deserve to be on here if they can't share.
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Your completely right man, i figured that out when i couldnt get a movie i wanted because no one was seeding
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A few people dropping off may be for honest reason, but those numbers are way too high.
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[off-topic]This is just the opposite of another discussion on ration requirements, where it's said torrents are seed too much, but people fear to download them (but that was about old torrent in the back catalogue).
Here we see, members who have the chance to upload well don't take it, later when the torrent gets old and less demanded and they'll try to seed because they are caught by low ratio, it will be much harder, the torrent being old and much less demanded.
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A few people dropping off may be for honest reason, but those numbers are way too high.
So a day later, and there are 82 seeders out of 235 downloads; so still about 1/3 of total.
I don't know why I am obsessing over this. I guess its because it is my first DVD rip, and so it took me longer to make than just uploading a file from another website. I want to know that the torrent lives healthy for people to enjoy it.
Is this what childbirth is like? :laugh:
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I have a pretty good ratio and sometimes I will bow out of seeding a healthy torrent to give others with a lower ratio a chance. Some people call it "overseeding" which also includes users with a fast upload speed thus denying guys with slower upload speeds a chance to succeed. I may be overly optimistic but that may be what some users are doing. Don't let it discourage you though. Mods and Admins take note of good uploaders and will help out where needed. In contrast we know who the super leechers are also and kinda remind them of their past behavior if they ever get in a bind. ;D
Brandon
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I have a pretty good ratio and sometimes I will bow out of seeding a healthy torrent to give others with a lower ratio a chance. Some people call it "overseeding" which also includes users with a fast upload speed thus denying guys with slower upload speeds a chance to succeed. I may be overly optimistic but that may be what some users are doing. Don't let it discourage you though. Mods and Admins take note of good uploaders and will help out where needed. In contrast we know who the super leechers are also and kinda remind them of their past behavior if they ever get in a bind. ;D
Brandon
Some users, sure. I do that too. But 2/3's? But I am moving on.
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Hello geekguy,
As cumeaternc said, don't feel discouraged.
As I did upload quite some full DVR-R, I noticed on these that the percentage of completed downloaders to seed is relatively low.
My personal explanation: These take a lot of hard disk space and either it is deleted after watching, burned to DVD and deleted or moved to an external drive and the member doesn't know how to re-seed from there (or is just lazzy, doesn't need for ratio).
This has as positive effect that members needing to improve their ratio can do so by staying seeding it.
In addition, here on GayTorrent.ru the long survive of the torrent is not in danger.
Sincerley yours'
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@Uwe:
Hello geekguy,
As cumeaternc said, don't feel discouraged.
As I did upload quite some full DVR-R, I noticed on these that the percentage of completed downloaders to seed is relatively low.
My personal explanation: These take a lot of hard disk space and either it is deleted after watching, burned to DVD and deleted or moved to an external drive and the member doesn't know how to re-seed from there (or is just lazzy, doesn't need for ratio).
This has as positive effect that members needing to improve their ratio can do so by staying seeding it.
In addition, here on GayTorrent.ru the long survive of the torrent is not in danger.
Sincerley yours'
UweFile isn't a full DVD-R, just an .avi. Less than 600MB.
I am trying to upload the DVD-R now, which is bigger and I totally get your reasoning there. (Its been almost 5 hours with no approval yet. I guess the mods are busy).
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Yes, or sleeping. I just finished my morning tour through the Personal Messages, Helpdesk, Reports, Forum and now go to work.
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@Uwe:
Yes, or sleeping. I just finished my morning tour through the Personal Messages, Helpdesk, Reports, Forum and now go to work.
No sweat. I didn't mean it as a complaint. I was typing at 2:00 in the morning and left off some nicety, but I was just giving a status report. It eventually got approved, and now has a good little swarm going, for a DVD-R. So I am moving on to rip another disc in my collection for upload.
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What I can't stand, or UNDERstand, is when the site says 7 people are seeding but I can't get it to transfer, or if I'm lucky it goes at 0.1kb/second. I'm downloading the ManifestMen collections right now and they really ought to have been done in a few hours with 7-ish seeders each, but they're not!
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What I can't stand, or UNDERstand, is when the site says 7 people are seeding but I can't get it to transfer, or if I'm lucky it goes at 0.1kb/second. I'm downloading the ManifestMen collections right now and they really ought to have been done in a few hours with 7-ish seeders each, but they're not!
Well, that really depends on the seeders upload rate. 7 seeders is not a lot if they all have slow uploads and its a big file.
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What I can't stand, or UNDERstand, is when the site says 7 people are seeding but I can't get it to transfer, or if I'm lucky it goes at 0.1kb/second. I'm downloading the ManifestMen collections right now and they really ought to have been done in a few hours with 7-ish seeders each, but they're not!
A part of the issue is as well that some of the seeder's and your's torrent client programmes are not connectable (see http://tracker.gaytorrent.ru/details.php?id=42368&dllist=1#seeders ).
If both in a swarm seed and leech are not connectable, no communication will be possible between them, and the clients will prefer connectable clients.
Being not connectable can have multiple sources:
1/ Firewall is blocking: check Windows Firewall to have an exception for incoming connections for your Torrent Client (or activate the option to create an exception in the Windows Firewall, if it got it). If you got another firewall on your computer, e.g. from the Antivirus suite, create an exception for the port used in your torrent client.2/ Your Router/Modem (the box from your ISP) is not sending incoming requests to your PC.
a) If it supports UPnP and your client, too, activate them in both
b) Else, give your PC a fixed local IP address (read the operating system help how to do, read the modem manual for the IP address range to chose from, typically 192.168.1.xxx or 192.168.0.xxx) create a thing which may be called something like "Local server", "Port forwarding" or "NAT (Network Address Translation")" for that IP and the port number used in client. For this you need to read the manual of the modem / rouer or it's suppliers (ISP) online help. portforwarding.com has help for many models
