Sex!!! Condom or bareback?
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I'm an au naturel kinda guy…. I hate the use of condoms, especially if I am topping.
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Hey guyz
What's your practice on gay sex? With or without? Is it important for u?
My teenage years was in the 80's where most countries had informative social campaigns about AIDS and using condoms. So… I must say that I was brainwashed, since in 99% of my first encounters with guyz I used a condom. I let loose for a short period and i ended-up having gonorrhea in my bum. LOL. The occasions I had unprotected sex was when I was in a trusting relationship and we were tested. And yes.... I must say fucking/fucked without a condom is much more enjoyable.
So it is important for me (at the point of refusing anal penetration but doing the rest (kissing, oral stuff) :)).
I have a feeling that todays young people don't care much as I think promotion for STD prevention is not as it should be.
Cheers
I always play safe
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Bareback is fun, if you're in a relationship for a long time and you both tested, but better to play safe in 1 nite stands.
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Bareback is my vote.. I love to see my cum dribbling out of the guys ass I fucked
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I always play safe
What may I ask do you define as "safe"? Statistically speaking, unprotected sexual intercourse with an HIV+ partner with an undetectable viral load is actually proven to be safer than sexual intercourse with a condom with an HIV+ person with a high viral load. This could reasonably conclude that it is "safe" to do it raw with an HIV+ partner with an undetectable viral load.
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What may I ask do you define as "safe"? Statistically speaking, unprotected sexual intercourse with an HIV+ partner with an undetectable viral load is actually proven to be safer than sexual intercourse with a condom with an HIV+ person with a high viral load. This could reasonably conclude that it is "safe" to do it raw with an HIV+ partner with an undetectable viral load.
I completely agree and have personally done the math on this (factored at clinical transmission rates, which are 96%, which includes multiple forms of human error.) Even at 96% (like I said previously, that's a conservatively low number) in some communities it is definitely safer to have unprotected sex with a random undetectable partner rather then protected sex with a random partner (numbers pulled from health databases.) But, not in all communities, in my community, HIV is relatively low so other diseases are also a concern. So, in regards to HIV, you are generally correct but you're forgetting that at 96% and 80% condom effectiveness (sounds low as well), the combination of the two puts you in the odds ranges of things like getting severely injured in motor vehicle accident on the way to work (per trip.)
I have read some of your other posts and understand your situation, but he's right in the sense that protected sex with a undetectable partner is still statistically safer then unprotected sex with an undetectable partner (word redundancy intended) but realistically it's the same. If the other partner is also on PREP, we get into completely unrealistic statistical ranges, maybe more likely then winning the lottery off a single ticket, but pretty terrible odds.
Edit: sorry I didn't save the numbers, but my math does include the actual HIV transmission rate, which some may find surprising what it actually is.
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Edit: sorry I didn't save the numbers, but my math does include the actual HIV transmission rate, which some may find surprising what it actually is.
Yes… The shocking thing is about the rates is that since 2000 when the studies started getting done with the newer meds that have come out post 1998. The interesting thing with them is no matter what the regime was, if the person had an undetectable viral load, there has not been so much as ONE documented case since the studies began 14 years ago of HIV transmission from an HIV+ partner who is undetectable. This is why I say that you could reasonably conclude that it's "safe" for lack of a better term. Even the statistics with condom use do have some (albeit not many) cases where infection has occurred as the result of a condom failure.
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Yes… The shocking thing is about the rates is that since 2000 when the studies started getting done with the newer meds that have come out post 1998. The interesting thing with them is no matter what the regime was, if the person had an undetectable viral load, there has not been so much as ONE documented case since the studies began 14 years ago of HIV transmission from an HIV+ partner who is undetectable. This is why I say that you could reasonably conclude that it's "safe" for lack of a better term. Even the statistics with condom use do have some (albeit not many) cases where infection has occurred as the result of a condom failure.
As far as I know and the databases I have access to, this is correct.
Note: To be clear in my previous post, I'm talking about transmission reduction rates, not actual transmission rates, after I re-read it, it may not have been obvious. So transmission is reduced by 96% clinically (it's realistically zero and there are no documented cases, but doctors are unwilling to say 100% for a few reasons; such as human error during testing, patients not taking their medication, exposure to mutations, and a few other factors.)
The HIV transmission rate being reduced by only 80% clinically when using condoms is shocking, I think this is due to regional issues. I'm sure in certain parts of the world they are "far less effective" simply because their users were not properly educated on how to use them. Including only developed countries with sex education programs, I'm sure it's much higher, but I can't find a statistic for that. There's also the risk of them just falling off, I really don't understand how somebody could break a latex condom when used properly. I'm sure there's a bigger chance with certain other materials, but again, in developed countries effectiveness and durability seem to be strong marketing points.
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If I'm in a committed relationship and my partner has gotten tested, then bareback.
Otherwise, condoms.
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Hey guyz
What's your practice on gay sex? With or without? Is it important for u?
My teenage years was in the 80's where most countries had informative social campaigns about AIDS and using condoms. So… I must say that I was brainwashed, since in 99% of my first encounters with guyz I used a condom. I let loose for a short period and i ended-up having gonorrhea in my bum. LOL. The occasions I had unprotected sex was when I was in a trusting relationship and we were tested. And yes.... I must say fucking/fucked without a condom is much more enjoyable.
So it is important for me (at the point of refusing anal penetration but doing the rest (kissing, oral stuff) :)).
I have a feeling that todays young people don't care much as I think promotion for STD prevention is not as it should be.
Cheers
I find bareback sex very hot and the idea turns me on - that there is no barrier between me and the guy who is fucking me. A few years ago, I would have bareback sex without hesitation but after I got STD tested and thankfully tested negative, I take nothing for granted now and am always safe. I think the reality of STDs and HIV doesn't really hit you until you get tested, then it's an anxious week where you really consider the consequences of your actions.
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Porn bareback Sex safe until both are tested same with oral condom during oral can take away a lot of fun but it also much safer.
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In a perfect world, definitely bareback, period. That said, I've not had any STDs yet, and would like to keep it that way, so I have a no sex before monogamy thing going on. I don't really get off on the idea of just fucking to be fucking, I like that attachment to the person to give it that much more fire, otherwise I can just wank off and be done with it. Not to say sluts and their breeders are bad, I love sluts and wish I could just take load after load of fresh cum in my oral and anal orifices cause it is so sexy looking. I love to imagine being the one taking all that man juice into me and letting it ooze and drip out and then the givers wipe it off with their dicks or fingers and feed the strays right back into me. I could go on and on about this fantasy. lol
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bareback with your partner!
you only use condom with those you are not in a relationship with or a stranger you just met.
im have a partner now so it is always bareback
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well bareback is much better, but it's importante to use condom….
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condoms, just easier to clean up
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Can't keep it hard with rubber on, so if a guy really wants me to fuck him it will be without a condom. But if a guy wants to fuck me I prefer if he use a condom.
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I love having sex without protection but I'm paranoid about having mushrooms grow all over my "valuables". Unless I'm in a committed relationship with someone, we've both been tested, and we're both clean, CONDOM!!!!
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Always condom for anal sex :anal: not for oral tho :bj2:
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Since Im in relationship last nine yrs, last five yrs we do only bb :cheesy2: :cheesy2: :cheesy2:
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Only in Relationships (and checked) without the french letter!
