What Format?
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Please help me - I am thinking about changing my default format for all new torrents that I upload on this site in 2009.
Should I continue posting in ISO format only for porn (currently I don't upload clips or rips) or should I switch to just upload AVIs, etc. (switch to clips and rips)?
It is my personal opinion that ISOs are much better quality (mostly) and are much more flexible in that they can be burned to disc as a copy of the original media, thereby being playable on a standalone entertainment system, and retaining the features (mostly) from the original media disc(s); whereas clips and rips tend to be of lesser quality (especially MPGs and FLVs), and some just refuse to burn to disc and therefore are harder to view on standalone players (if at all).
This poll will expire in 90 days, at which time I would hope that many people will add their input. Please feel free to add comments to explain your vote, if you feel so inclined.
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Personally, I prefer if people are going to upload full DVDs to upload the Video_TS folder.
Overall, I'd rather have full dvds, than rips.
I've seen a lot of rips with very low quality, even though they have a pretty big file size.
EDIT: The reason I prefer Video_TS folders is that my seedbox doesn't support transfer resume on files over 2gb.
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Personally, I prefer if people are going to upload full DVDs to upload the Video_TS folder.
Overall, I'd rather have full dvds, than rips.
I've seen a lot of rips with very low quality, even though they have a pretty big file size.
EDIT: The reason I prefer Video_TS folders is that my seedbox doesn't support transfer resume on files over 2gb.
I agree completely with raphjd, my reason though: my torrent computer still runs with Win ME (an ancient notebook with external HD) where files above 2 GB are not possible.
EDIT:: I edited the poll to include VIDEO_TS folders
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@mgr:
Personally, I prefer if people are going to upload full DVDs to upload the Video_TS folder.
Overall, I'd rather have full dvds, than rips.
I've seen a lot of rips with very low quality, even though they have a pretty big file size.
EDIT: The reason I prefer Video_TS folders is that my seedbox doesn't support transfer resume on files over 2gb.
I agree completely with raphjd, my reason though: my torrent computer still runs with Win ME (an ancient notebook with external HD) where files above 2 GB are not possible.
Maybe I should re-think about my habits, considering those "problems". Just in case.
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Personally I prefer VIDEO_TS folders and full DVD quality (i.e. not shrunk DVD9), too.
From this everyone can make his own conversion into .AVI, .MOV, .MP4, .MKV, .RMVB or what ever he likes with the resolution and codecs and settings he likes or needs for his playback devices.But because of bandwidth (ratio / download & seedback time) many will prefer AVI. Nothing speaks against posting 2 torrents with different format versions, one with full DVD, the other with an AVI.
A remark to the Poll : AVI (and more and more other container) are not restricted to computer. Today even cheap DVD player '~30 ) can play AVIs with MPEG-4 ASP (e.g. created with Xvid or DivX codec) and MPEG-1 Layer 2 & Layer 3 (mp3) or AC-3 (Dolby Digital). Though there are some restrictions as to the resolution (SD) and average / peak bit rates and encodings used (qpel / gmc …). Most AVI here will play.
There are as well media player external hard drives with LAN / WLAN, a good way to bring the files played to TV and expand the storage capacity.
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I like the Full DVD so I can make quality AVI if I want to or I can watch it in full quality on my widescreen TV. I much prefer the Full DVD given the one choice.
I would prefer the Video_TS folder simply because some programs don't make a ISO file properly with a proper layer break, which is used with some DVD-9 DVD. Not everyone knows what to use to make a proper ISO from a DVD9, so using the VIDEO_TS folder to make the torrent would cause less problems for all members.
If a ISO is going to be made, I would ask to please use ImgBurn (imgburn.com) to make the image. It will properly make the ISO and also make the MDS file used to mount or burn the image properly from a DVD-9.
This program is also able to split the image into 1GB sections for people using older systems.
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If a ISO is going to be made, I would ask to please use ImgBurn (imgburn.com) to make the image. It will properly make the ISO and also make the MDS file used to mount or burn the image properly from a DVD-9.
This program is also able to split the image into 1GB sections for people using older systems.
That does not solve the problem of an uploaded ISO: it is usually > 2 GB and has to be downloaded firsthand (which will not work on a FAT32 drive - you need to have a NTFS formatted drive for files > 2 GB (on older Winblows versions only possible with additional software which uses additional ressources and is mostly not suited for stablle 24/7 usage in older machines (my experience).
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@mgr:
If a ISO is going to be made, I would ask to please use ImgBurn (imgburn.com) to make the image. It will properly make the ISO and also make the MDS file used to mount or burn the image properly from a DVD-9.
This program is also able to split the image into 1GB sections for people using older systems.
That does not solve the problem of an uploaded ISO: it is usually > 2 GB and has to be downloaded firsthand (which will not work on a FAT32 drive - you need to have a NTFS formatted drive for files > 2 GB (on older Winblows versions only possible with additional software which uses additional ressources and is mostly not suited for stablle 24/7 usage in older machines (my experience).
It certainly will solve the problem of new torrents, but not any that are currently uploaded. I'm not sure what your not understanding? I wasn't referring to existing torrents and neither is this thread.
ImgBurn will split the image into 1GB parts. The the seeder can make his torrent with those parts. The parts will not need to be joined to burn the DVD or to mount it to a virtual drive when the default MDS small file is included.
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I like the Full DVD so I can make quality AVI if I want to or I can watch it in full quality on my widescreen TV. I much prefer the Full DVD given the one choice.
and to celebrate our diversity…I prefer a good quality rip from DVD to AVI, defining "good quality" as (1) the same resolution as the DVD, and (2) minimal or no compression of the video. These will play on many new DVD players and give the same result as playing the original DVD. (I have a Philips DVD player that will play .avi files from a DVD, or from a drive plugged in to the player's USB port.) These .avi rips are also easier/faster to download, because they're usually about 1.5 GB for a full-length film, instead of 4 GB.
But...it's important that the DVD rip be done with quality of the end-product in mind. I don't have the software to rip DVD's myself, so I'm not going to criticize anyone who has ripped a DVD and seeded it here. But I would suggest that people "rip for quality."
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These .avi rips are also easier/faster to download, because they're usually about 1.5 GB for a full-length film, instead of 4 GB.
Actually, for the last 3 years, dual layer dvds have been the rule, while single layer has been the exception.
We still see a lot of single layer dvds on these sites because they are getting shrunk.
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[off-topic]@raphjd:
… Actually, for the last 3 years, dual layer dvds have been the rule, while single layer has been the exception.
We still see a lot of single layer dvds on these sites because they are getting shrunk.
We require to indicate in the description if a DVD-R is a shrunk version and not a 1:1 quality copy (of a DVD5).
Perhaps a own category for "Full DVD-R" or "Shrunk DVD-R", would be use full.
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… and (2) minimal or no compression of the video. These will play on many new DVD players and give the same result as playing the original DVD. ...
If you convert to a smaller AVI (or .Mp4, etc. …), you will go through the process of decompressing the DVD MPEG-2 movie and re-encode and compress further more using a more modern codec like MPEG-4 ASP (Advanced Simple Profile, e.g. DivX / Xvid codecs) or MPEG-4 AVC ( Advanced Video Coding aka h.264, e.g. x.264 codec). This means two steps with loss of quality. In addition even the AVC is only a little mre than 2 times efficient in compression than MPEG-2, so one will loss quality by compress more.
The loss of quality can be acceptable for many viewers, but still will be recognisable.
The upload of full DVD here, gives the possibility to others who know how to do AVI, to upload a compressed converted version here. Which in return will boost their ratio and will make you happy.
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It certainly will solve the problem of new torrents, but not any that are currently uploaded. I'm not sure what your not understanding? I wasn't referring to existing torrents and neither is this thread.
ImgBurn will split the image into 1GB parts. The the seeder can make his torrent with those parts. The parts will not need to be joined to burn the DVD or to mount it to a virtual drive when the default MDS small file is included.
My problem is not a problem with uploading DVDs - I rip them to a VIODEO_TS folder, in which by the current DVD rules all bin files (*.VOB) have a maximum size of 1 GB - so storing and uploading such a folder is not a problem on a FAT 32 drive. Problems still come when you try do download a torrent with a single data file > 2GB - not possible. And I read the origonal format question (and the poll) from the point of view of a downloading member, That's my reason for suggestion to all who bother with uploading torrents to this tracker to rip it a VIDEO_TS folder instead of a single ISO file because big ISO files are often a problem for Downloaders!
That is my answer to the OP when he asked which formats other members prefer for their downloads.
The answer is still: VIDEO_TS folders - not an ISO file! -
@mgr:
It certainly will solve the problem of new torrents, but not any that are currently uploaded. I'm not sure what your not understanding? I wasn't referring to existing torrents and neither is this thread.
ImgBurn will split the image into 1GB parts. The the seeder can make his torrent with those parts. The parts will not need to be joined to burn the DVD or to mount it to a virtual drive when the default MDS small file is included.
My problem is not a problem with uploading DVDs - I rip them to a VIODEO_TS folder, in which by the current DVD rules all bin files (*.VOB) have a maximum size of 1 GB - so storing and uploading such a folder is not a problem on a FAT 32 drive. Problems still come when you try do download a torrent with a single data file > 2GB - not possible. And I read the origonal format question (and the poll) from the point of view of a downloading member, That's my reason for suggestion to all who bother with uploading torrents to this tracker to rip it a VIDEO_TS folder instead of a single ISO file because big ISO files are often a problem for Downloaders!
That is my answer to the OP when he asked which formats other members prefer for their downloads.
The answer is still: VIDEO_TS folders - not an ISO file!I will show you an example of what I have attempted to explain. I am preparing to post a DVD now and it will be a split ISO file which will be split into 1GB parts. A image file is a good way to post because it is a perfect bit for bit copy (image) of the original. But as you say, and which I totally agree with, to post a torrent in a single huge 4 or 7gb file should not be done because of other members that cannot download due to the file format of their hard disk. Many new external drives are formatted with FAT32, not NTFS.
Making a split ISO file is a method to retain a perfect image and keeping it accessible for everyone. I will post the link for you to check out once I have posted it.
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This is the link to the post mentioned earlier
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Many new external drives are formatted with FAT32, not NTFS.
A good reason to use FAT32 is to have them read on standalone Media Player and DVD Player etc. …usually not compatible with NTFS.
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I am preparing to post a DVD now and it will be a split ISO file which will be split into 1GB parts. A image file is a good way to post because it is a perfect bit for bit copy (image) of the original. But as you say, and which I totally agree with, to post a torrent in a single huge 4 or 7gb file should not be done because of other members that cannot download due to the file format of their hard disk. Many new external drives are formatted with FAT32, not NTFS.Making a split ISO file is a method to retain a perfect image and keeping it accessible for everyone. I will post the link for you to check out once I have posted it.
LOL - ok now, finally I understood - but, sorry to say, I'm not too keen to open a new can of worms about "split ISO files". They DO need a lot of explanation until ppl (especially new users) will understand what they are about and how to play them on their computers. Where is the advantage of having a split ISO file about a VIDEO_TS folder anyway? A ripped VIDEO_TS folder is also an exact bit to bit copy of a DVD's content.
@Uwe:
A good reason to use FAT32 is to have them read on standalone Media Player and DVD Player etc. …usually not compatible with NTFS.
And I never found an external Media player able to play ISO files (split or not)!
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@mgr:
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I am preparing to post a DVD now and it will be a split ISO file which will be split into 1GB parts. A image file is a good way to post because it is a perfect bit for bit copy (image) of the original. But as you say, and which I totally agree with, to post a torrent in a single huge 4 or 7gb file should not be done because of other members that cannot download due to the file format of their hard disk. Many new external drives are formatted with FAT32, not NTFS.Making a split ISO file is a method to retain a perfect image and keeping it accessible for everyone. I will post the link for you to check out once I have posted it.
LOL - ok now, finally I understood - but, sorry to say, I'm not too keen to open a new can of worms about "split ISO files". They DO need a lot of explanation until ppl (especially new users) will understand what they are about and how to play them on their computers. Where is the advantage of having a split ISO file about a VIDEO_TS folder anyway? A ripped VIDEO_TS folder is also an exact bit to bit copy of a DVD's content.
@Uwe:
A good reason to use FAT32 is to have them read on standalone Media Player and DVD Player etc. …usually not compatible with NTFS.
And I never found an external Media player able to play ISO files (split or not)!
Check out this link for explanation. hXXp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_image
Your answer is under the 'Format' section that states "In addition to data of the files it also contains…" Click the other links supplied in blue for more detail.
There is no 'can of worms' to open. Simply put it is a ISO file and no more difficult to use that a single ISO file. Because you may not understand the extensions..i.e. I01 I02 etc is no reason to be confused. Anyone who works with ISO files will have no trouble with this either. I supplied a short readme file for anyone who doesn't understand ISO files or image files, out of consideration for our members.
All you need to do is to use the supplied MDS file to burn or mount the image. Couldn't be any easier…no need to read into this any further than needed. MDS (Media Descriptor) files have been around for many years and again, anyone who has worked with ISO Image files should be very familiar with their use.
VLC player will play ISO files and will usually play the Split ISO files also, if desired.
Edit: live link disabled
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All this discussion of disk images and iso files is interesting…but I keep thinking back to the question that kicked off this thread:
"Should I continue posting in ISO format only for porn ... or should I ... switch to clips and rips?"
If one looks at the statistics for items seeded in the last month, rips in .avi format often get snatched hundreds of times, while DVD's in ISO format seem to get snatched maybe 50-70 times. (This is from a casual inspection, not a detailed analysis.) So, it would seem that most people, including myself, prefer .avi format.
Of course, we're a community that honors diversity and difference in opinion, so I'm not saying that the majority has ruled and therefore people "should" seed only .avi format. Maybe one solution is to seed both--upload a torrent with full DVD, whether native or ISO or split ISO or whatever--and then do a high quality rip and seed that, too. This way everybody can enjoy the film.
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Well its too soon to say. Your poll is for 90 days, but don't expect a large vote. So far you've only gotten about 14 votes. This forum is very inactive and you really won't get a real picture. I would have thought you had already known the majority download the compressed avi files. Compared to that, there is a very small portion of the members that download DVD, and thats because of the time it takes and the size of the file. The same is true over at the other gay torrent site. It depends on what you want to give the members, not what they want. You'll never get a proper response with such a question or poll at any forum.
Also its a larger task to seed a full dvd, and quite a thankless job at that. I'll tell ya this…I've never had a single one of my DVD requests filled at either site. I use to post quite many DVD, but no longer do because of lack of gratitude, inconsiderate and greedy, and hateful rudeness of some of the members. There are only a couple of members that I will post DVD for and I'm sure if they read this, know who they are. As the old saying goes, it only takes a few rotten apples to spoil the whole basket. Posters don't get enough thanks for what they do. Sending a PM of thanks to the poster, and filling their requests, is the best one can do to show thanks...especially when one seeds a DVD they have bought or rented with their hard earned cash. Enough said.
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