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      BlueInfinity last edited by

      Even though it seems that gay people get more and more accepted, there are still many places in the world where being gay is considered bad, illegal and can even endanger gay people's life.

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        raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

        I said nothing will change as it was the best answer, though not completely correct.

        Eventually, gay relationships will be legal in the US but it will take many more years to come.

        Black centric and muslim nations will continue to be extremely homophobic.  The worst part is, we as gay men have to pay for Africa while they actively campaign against us.  No one dares stand up to them on the issue for fear of being called a racist.

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          cumeaternc last edited by

          @raphjd:

          …No one dares stand up to them on the issue for fear of being called a racist...

          How sad that a segment of people that has been so oppressed in the western hemisphere("African Americans") would do the same exact thing to men who are "different"(gay men) in their own country. You would think with the first black American president, they would see how far we have come as a nation but I guess not. The "us & them" mentality I believe will always be around as long humans are around.  :-[

          I am black, American & bisexual.  The older I get, the more open minded I have become to all cultures, races and sexual orientations. Believe it or not, the discussions in these gaytorrent.ru forums have helped broaden my view of things I don't totally understand.

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            Gr1zz last edited by

            I don't know for sure, but my gut instinct is that while the whole thing is being discussed in terms of "we" and "they", the chances and speed of improvement are going to be a lot lower than they should be.

            Historically, the main factor that unifies groups is an attack from an outside force.  The white supremacists at my school were the worst things ever, until the other school's sports teams showed up…  and school lines were the division, until the police showed up.  The pattern is easy to see when you are looking for it.

            If we are lucky, it won't take something like an alien invasion to unite the world, but I won't hold my breath.  I just hope that it won't come from that planet between Saturn and Neptune, otherwise, we would likely be blamed for that! :-)[nb]Yes, I know it's a big ball of gas, with little chance of having any life, but that hasn't stopped a lot of politicians from causing us grief![/nb]

            There's also the problem of _ists (where _ can be just about any identifying factor: sex, race, age, class, and so on).  It's very difficult to discuss such things when people can be divided into groups, even if they don't claim group membership themselves.  There seems to be some sort of implied immunity as long as you are a member of that group, but I call bovine faecal matter on that one.  I've personally been called many nasty things, and been told there is no way I can understand or even be supportive of uterarian-americans[nb]also known as women :-)[/nb] because of those things between my legs.

            To me, discrimination is discrimination is discrimination, whether its within the group, outside of the group, or crossing the boarders that someone inside (or outside) of the group puts up.

            [you], are you staring at my crotch?

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              Spintendo last edited by

              The choices:

              1. With time, gay people will get more and more rights everywhere in the world.
              2. Gay rights will improve in most countries, but there will be a few places where gay rights will be denied.
              3. Nothing will change. Countries that respect gay rights will always do it, while countries that don't will never change their views.
              4. In the future the number of places that respect gay rights will be much smaller than the number of places that deny gay rights.
              5. The "Gay Rights" movement is just a thing of the moment. As some people become more open minded, the majority of people will become more violent towards gay people and will deny their rights.

              Choice # 5 is identical to choice # 4.  Choice # 1 appears to be just another way of describing choice # 2.  And choice # 3, which admits of a world where nothing changes ― is a counterfactual.


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