Is it possible to change bonus system?
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I have searched everywhere but can't see the answer. Will someone please tell me what this "invite" is we exchange for 250 seed bonus? Invitation to what? Who invites me to where? What's it?
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I have searched everywhere but can't see the answer. Will someone please tell me what this "invite" is we exchange for 250 seed bonus? Invitation to what? Who invites me to where? What's it?
Power Users can invite friends to join the tracker. Here's several threads discussing this same topic:
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=4436.0
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=12806.0
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=14676.0
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=4911.0
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=7198.0
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=9272.0
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=15328.0
http://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=9009.0 -
Thank you
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@ thedude99
First off, "seem to be implying most" is not saying saying everyone, not is it actually saying "most".
You said, "As it is now, people leave 1 torrent "seeding" but turn down the speed so low that it won't ever seed properly. All so they can get the SB for free. "
If you weren't implying that most people are doing that then why was that comment relevant? Why are you using that as an excuse to not change anything? If it's only a few people abusing it why punish everyone else?
I also question why you are only now posting about this, since you have been here for nearly 4 years. Surely our system was crap in your eyes before the other 188 weeks you've been a member.
I've always noticed it but tried to ignore it. Now I felt like commenting on it. I hope that's ok and it's not past the statute of limitations.
Look I can see we're not going to agree on this so let's drop it. You don't think it should be changed and that's fine, I can respect that.
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As already indicated, there will be changes. When and which exactly, I don't know, it will be a surprise for me like to all members. Only I know something is boiling.
As anecdote, fitting well into what raphjd indicated: I am currently trying to download two old torrent, each of them got 1 seed left only (different). Both are dropping in steady at 1 KByte/s and know after 2 weeks (the computer being 100 hours online a week) the download. is about 60% complete of both, total file size of each is below 1 GByte.
Of course the uploader merit a thank you for keeping them alive and seeding them in the first place !
However they manage their bandwidth not in the best way, at least it seem so. Both are seeding around 100 torrents out of which about 20, respectively 30 got leecher. The upload rates of these users are around 20 and 35 KBytes/s. So I get my fair share.
Now just try to thing about the seed bonus rewarding and how such seeding should be rewarded …
Personally that example brings me to some ideas, but certainly complex to implement and I fear we would need a more powerful server to calculate the attribution:
- Give 0.5 Seed Bonus Points per hour only for 1 torrent without any condition
- Give 0.05 Seed Bonus Points per hour up to additional 10 torrents which are only seed by that 1 seeder and have currently no leecher (kept alive)
This potentially doubles the Seed Bonus Points and my experience tells me it will almost double it (~99%)
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I understand the issue of having only 1 seeder and downloading very slow. I've experienced it also. But remember this is not the only website people may be dl/ul from. We may have many torrents active from different websites. There is a button on the page to request reseed or more seeders.
I was about to suggest PMing the seeder and asking them to increase the speed but I think they changed the site and made all uploaders anonymous. That's too bad. If you sent me a PM asking nicely to increase the speed I would have no problem doing it.
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I was about to suggest PMing the seeder and asking them to increase the speed but I think they changed the site and made all uploaders anonymous. That's too bad. If you sent me a PM asking nicely to increase the speed I would have no problem doing it.
We changed it because people were wrongly accusing us of giving the info to the studios/anti piracy groups. We're stuck in a perpetual catch 22. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. Can't win for losing.
Also, most times, people don't keep their upload after a certain amount of time. I no longer have any of the stuff I uploaded here prior to Jan 2011. This was either due to hdd crashes or making space for new stuff.
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I understand the issue of having only 1 seeder and downloading very slow. I've experienced it also. But remember this is not the only website people may be dl/ul from. We may have many torrents active from different websites. There is a button on the page to request reseed or more seeders.
I was about to suggest PMing the seeder and asking them to increase the speed but I think they changed the site and made all uploaders anonymous. That's too bad. If you sent me a PM asking nicely to increase the speed I would have no problem doing it.
I've brought up this example two members in the context of the bonus system discussion. Of course I could PM them, but since my computer and µTorrent are running anyway daily, that isn't a major issue for me. I've sent as well a re-seed request, but no response (this to low ratio issues …). If they respond positively to a PM, it will just take away upload rate from the others. As said upon, currently I get my fair share. Anyway my personal download is not the point here.
There are two things making me tick a little:
If members are uploading / downloading on other places, that is the their problem to manage the share of bandwidth. In no way the GayTorrent.ru bonus system should compensate for members prefer to share elsewhere. That can't be the purpose of a bonus system.
The given examples IMHO just proof:
There must be a limit of number of torrents rewarded with Seed Bonus Points (if totally flat or a certain number, is another question) or it would spoil seeding. Just to make the calculation: our current system is worth 1.43 KBytes/s, times 100 of the examples makes up for 143 KBytes/s. That would mean more than the best ADSL2+ line can do ! My guess of usual reached real upload rates by most members are in the 20 to 80 KBytes/s rage.
To make it clear: The two members of my example are GOOD MEMBERS, they keep torrents alive and steady seed. For that they earn 5% to 7% extra to their upload by the current seed bonus system. Not that bad, isn't it?
What they could do better is the traffic management, by changed torrent client settings. That would be the top. -
Just an observation upon reading this entire thread…
Having been a member for a few years now, and having had my fare share of hard drive crashes, losing my libraries, having to start over, rebuilding my seed points .... hell I can even remember when Administrator let me have some free credits when I pleaded for assistance ... and he helped me out. And in turn, I have kept my promise back to him. I love this site. I enjoy the community. I appreciate those who contribute to it, and I appreciate even more those who help facilitate and administer it. Uwe, more than anyone, simply because I tried to help rebuild the system after the crash last year of the site. The point is, this is a community, and it take members to help make it work. And members have been given the opportunity to voice concerns, make suggestions, and interact with staff. It's part of what makes this community great - and why I personally enjoy it, and I'm sure thousands of others do as well.
Debate can be good - it helps foster community - and it helps improve things that can be improved upon. I certainly have full respect for everyone on staff involved in created, building, tweaking and supporting this site and system. Truly, my hats off to all of you for what you have accomplished. I know you have heard suggestions in the past, made adjustments, and the history of your actions and changes are lost if not recognized by many in the community - especially those who are new'ish to us.
