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    Obama is the new President elect!!!!!!

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      • raphjdR Offline
        raphjd Forum Administrator
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        It's great news for so many things in the US.

        However, Obama believes in the Jim Crow style "back of the bus" for gays.  He has repeatedly said that his religious beliefs won't allow him to support gay marriage.

        Civil Unions are not equality for countless reasons and it does separate us from the rest of society, making us 2nd class citizens.

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          loverinme
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          🙂 I'm so happy right now.

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            leeward
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            @raphjd:

            [Obama] has repeatedly said that his religious beliefs won't allow him to support gay marriage.

            My belief is that Obama would like to support gay marriage (he is far too intelligent - editor of Harvard Law Review and note his roster of cabinet members and staff - to be too beholden to conservative religious beliefs, and he is from Hawaii, where its State Supreme Court was the first to strike down anti-gay state legislation on constitutional grounds), but he had to get elected with the support of middle America.  And after inauguration, if he is to promote any real change (even if it is on non-gay issues), then he has to govern through the middle.

            Bill Clinton tried to make that kind of change in the US military soon after his election, but was shot down and had to settle for Don't Ask, Don't Tell.  He had difficulty getting things done after that, having alienated the middle.

            Obama will not make that same mistake.

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              leeward
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              Obama’s choice of Rick Warren of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, to deliver the  invocation at Obama’s inauguration is a poor one.  And made so early in his term.  This does not bode well for LGBT rights issues, at least as regards support from this Administration.

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                ManHandler
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                Interesting, going back!

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                  A Former User
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                  Actually saw this one earlier.

                  What the heck changed. Biden was his VP and they did great together.

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                  • ManHandlerM Offline
                    ManHandler
                    last edited by

                    What happened was Trump.

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                      A Former User
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                      And now Biden is happening. Time to be excited again.

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                      • ManHandlerM Offline
                        ManHandler
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                        No. Biden is not going to be a thing. Like irregardless.

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                        • ManHandlerM Offline
                          ManHandler
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                          Democrats Cheated. PERIOD. It's time to take the vote to the legislatures. Trump won, you lost. You're sick people.

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