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      hudsonjohns last edited by

      What advantage or reward does one receive for uploading and seeding a successful torrent?

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        F00F Global Moderator last edited by

        Seeding bonus and better ratio.

        And maybe a happy man finding a nice vid. 🙂

        "If evolution is true, why hasn't my mac given birth to a PC? I mean we all know that PCs are better than macs"
        Seedboxes are cheating.
        "So what if jesus turned water into wine.. I turned a whole student loan into vodka. Your move, Jesus."

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          yngmstr last edited by

          Where to start…

          Torrents are based on a community effort. When you upload a new torrent you are adding to the pool. When you seed a torrent you are allowing others to drink from the pool, the more seeders the bigger the pool the more can drink.

          BUT if you drink and don't seed, you take from the pool; if everyone drank, and didn't seed... the pool would get smaller and smaller, till there was just a picture of you at the bottom, alone with no seeds...

          YngMstr

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            hudsonjohns last edited by

            Hummm… so much for incentives. :-l

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              yngmstr last edited by

              The advantage of uploading and seeding a torrent is that you don't use up your d/l ratio, it is all going to your u/l ratio.

              I am not sure more than that what you are looking for.

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                F00F Global Moderator last edited by

                Money like everyone else. 🙂

                "If evolution is true, why hasn't my mac given birth to a PC? I mean we all know that PCs are better than macs"
                Seedboxes are cheating.
                "So what if jesus turned water into wine.. I turned a whole student loan into vodka. Your move, Jesus."

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                  hudsonjohns last edited by

                  If I were after money I'd slap a "pay for it" password and RAR it up. Uploaders spend a lot of time putting a file together, ensuring it is of the best quality and that it will play properly with audio insync, restricting their own systems to ensure it gets seeded, denying themselves downloads to keep bandwidth available, and much time and effort. This isn't a public site. The tracker has to comply with this site and this site alone. If found elsewhere a potential downloader must come here, register and be concerned with potential security risks and possible legal liability if site records are hacked or comfiscated by authorities.

                  If this were a public site there would be far less concern with quality, time, effort, audio syncing. Torrents are offered more for benevolent reasons.

                  Times have changed. Private sites tend to dominate today and site owners are benefiting through donations, advertising, email harvesting, and more. Those who provide the actual product see a return of "thanks" and little more - they are left at the level of the non-uploader and required to meet the same share ratio. They watch as their file/product is snatched by a mob and seeded by just a handful.

                  The more successful private sites are beginning to realize this and are offering incentives and rewards to those who take the time to provide the actual end product. Those sites are getting the better product, the higher quality video and a supporting customer base whose customers/clients don't grab and run but help to keep the site luscious with ongoing seeding.

                  I have library of over 3,000 films. I can give them away on the public sites if I had unlimited bandwidth, time and effort. I'd rather see my uploads go to targeted groups who would get the most enjoyment from them but as an uploader (and I'm sure other uploaders would agree) I'd like to see a little more incentives offered once a product is seeded and of demand.

                  I just spent three days restricting my 'Net activity to ensure one high quality "very much wanted" video got seeded only to see it grabbed with gusto hundreds of times and left with few downloaders willing to seed it back.

                  What incentive do I have to do this again?

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                    yngmstr last edited by

                    I understand what you are saying,

                    BUT the only thing you have uploaded, has 73 of the 223 seeding it now… uploaded less than 2 days ago

                    Not everyone seeds like they should, or maybe a bunch of those people have already seeded 1 to 1, are you disappointed and frustrated that there are not 223 people seeding it? the required ratio is .350

                    You do it for the love of it. If you feel that your work in creating a torrent is not met with the utmost you deserve, then you have a choice to make. It isn't up to GU to make you happy it is up to the people that have leeched the file from you...

                    GU as a whole has a great s/l ratio I think last time I saw it quoted it was 4/1

                    Yng

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                      hudsonjohns last edited by

                      Again, on private sites you don't do it for the "love of it" unless you are a newbie, retired with nothing to do and uploading is your greatest thrill in life or because you see yourself as a benevolent person. You do it because you want to reach a targeted audience, in this case the gay computer user.

                      Put it on a public site - which reaches a much wider audience - and you will reach any user finding your upload. There you do it for "the love of it" or the thrill of seeing your offering being spread around the world. You expect people to hit and run.

                      It would behoove private sites to say to the uploader, "Bring your file here, seed it successfully, and we'll bestow an additional set of points on you to encourage a steady stream of files being made available and making our site the most popular.

                      Uploaders have to weigh the options. Public or private - which one is the more beneficial.

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                        raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                        BUT the only thing you have uploaded, has 73 of the 223 seeding it now… uploaded less than 2 days ago

                        Actually, he's uploaded more than that, but he regularly has a fit and deletes his uploads. It's almost like a monthly cycle. :whistle:

                        Anyway, to get an idea of where he's coming from, you can read all of his posts so far on this site.

                        http://tracker.gaytorrent.ru/userhistory.php?action=viewposts&id=30729

                        Notice that every post he has made is a direct or indirect complaint about GT.ru or an advertisement for his favorite torrent site.

                        As much as he hates us, he sure gets a lot of stuff from here. 🙂

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                          yngmstr last edited by

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                          Permission denied on link

                          lol…

                          This is a monthly thing? I shall go no further... Thanks...

                          🙂

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                            trukr last edited by

                            @raphjd:

                            monthly cycle.

                            🙂

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                              F00F Global Moderator last edited by

                              I just hope that there's no blood. :-l

                              "If evolution is true, why hasn't my mac given birth to a PC? I mean we all know that PCs are better than macs"
                              Seedboxes are cheating.
                              "So what if jesus turned water into wine.. I turned a whole student loan into vodka. Your move, Jesus."

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                                hudsonjohns last edited by

                                @F00F:

                                I just hope that there's no blood. :-l

                                I have a fine ratio and regularly support this site by staying connected and helping to seed other uploads. I also support this site with uploads directly to members for reposting to this site in an effort to improve their own ratios. When I look through the directories I see a great many of my files uploaded by friends I've made here and supplied directly through FTP methods. Perhaps raphjd is frustrated because I no longer donate cash in support of this website. I donate to other websites because I want to see them flourish and respect their efforts.

                                This is a private site benefiting those who run it, not the supporters per se much less the uploaders. Without uploaded product they don't have much to offer. I see many members have moved on to other more popular and friendlier gay torrent websites.

                                My question has been answered. Uploaders are not rewarded directly for their efforts other then the self-satisfaction of giving to others. I will spread the good word.

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                                  yngmstr last edited by

                                  Well thanks, and see ya…

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                                    F00F Global Moderator last edited by

                                    I can't recall any members only sites that gives you something extra for uploading things, 'cept thanks from other members and better ratio.

                                    "If evolution is true, why hasn't my mac given birth to a PC? I mean we all know that PCs are better than macs"
                                    Seedboxes are cheating.
                                    "So what if jesus turned water into wine.. I turned a whole student loan into vodka. Your move, Jesus."

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                                      yngmstr last edited by

                                      no FOOF I heard that [ LIVE LINK REMOVED ] gives a dollar a torrent…

                                      🙂

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                                        raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                                        I've never heard of a site that pays people to upload.

                                        I wonder what kind of system they have that they can be able to do that. The costs are very high running a torrent site, so they must be making a ton of money in some way.

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                                          yngmstr last edited by

                                          This is a quote from a previous post from you Hudson

                                          "please help me out and take the time to download and get it seeded. I want to spread the wealth of these great films."

                                          I think enough has been said.

                                          YngMstr

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                                            trukr last edited by

                                            @F00F:

                                            I just hope that there's no blood. :-l

                                            lots and lots, boxes of pads and midol too. :-l

                                            @hudsonjohns:

                                            It would behoove private sites to say to the uploader, "Bring your file here, seed it successfully, and we'll bestow an additional set of points on you to encourage a steady stream of files being made available and making our site the most popular.

                                            in another thread you claimed to have a 9meg connection, i'm assuming that's download only.
                                            generally, that would mean you should have at least 1meg up. right?
                                            if so, you shouldn't need any "rewards".
                                            i know you had issues with your connection or client set up in the past, solve them and sharing should be a non issue.
                                            learn how to set up your connection properly, start an upload before you go to bed, and when you wake up it will be seeded.
                                            i bet you can upload about twice as fast as you have been. 😉
                                            you should be able to surf the web and have fast downloads while uploading at 80-90% of your line capacity.
                                            my last upload, 1.1GB, seeded in a few (maybe 6) hours with a 1meg upload connection set at 92KB (it goes haywire if i set it around 100KB, speed tests show 950-1000kbps 😞 )
                                            it doesn't take much effort to seed a torrent here.
                                            or maybe you are not getting the service you are paying for?
                                            htttttp://speedtest.net/

                                            my reward is sharing and being able to download whatever i want because i have a good ratio.

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