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    • raphjd
      raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

      02/17/07-02/19/07

      Schwarzenegger says he would veto same-sex marriage again

      California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said he would veto a bill that would legalize same-sex marriage if state lawmakers passed it again this year.

      According to the Associated Press, the governor made the statement in answer to a question from a high school student at the California YMCA Youth and Government Conference.

      "I wouldn't sign it because the people of California have voted on that issue," the AP quotes Schwarzenegger as saying. He further explained that he would leave it up to a statewide vote instead of having the state legislature or the governor enact a law.

      In June 2005 California's legislature was the first lawmaking body in the country to pass a measure legalizing same-sex marriage?a measure Schwarnegger subsequently vetoed. The bill was reintroduced in December by Assemblyman Mark Leno of San Francisco.

      Equality California's executive director, Geoffrey Kors, said in a statement that he and his group are disappointed with Schwarzenegger's views and hopes he will reconsider his decision if the bill is up for passage again. "How would the governor feel if his right to marry first lady Maria Shriver had been put to a popular vote?" Kors said. "We urge him to remember that each of us deserves to be treated fairly." (The Advocate)

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        Mideseo last edited by

        Now we know where the steroids went in his body :strongbench:

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          SunGuru last edited by

          I think that the more a man play a macho figure the more he wants to hide the fact the he is a simple man and that he is disturbing the peace of thousands… 😕

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            pickknic last edited by

            I am WAY not in touch with US politics…

            So the people of California voted on Gay Marriage recently, and the result was against it? I thought California was meant to be the gayest state in the US, I honestly thought that if a vote/referendum was put out in CA, it'd be overwhelmingly in support of gay marriage.

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            • raphjd
              raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

              In 2000, they voted for marriage to mean opposite sex couples only. However, it was a narrow victory for the bigots.

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                Deftera last edited by

                The issue is gay MARRIAGE. I believe Arnold is against gay marriage but not against gay unions. Which would give the same rights as gay marriage, it just wouldn't be called marriage, quite frankly, the fight is over a word. We want marriage, not unions.

                The problem is, the gay marriage fight is less political and more religious. Marriage is actually considered a religious practice and a religious act, so we're fighting a religious issue from a political stand point, that's where a lot of the issues lie and why states like California where most people thought the bill would pass, hasn't yet.

                I know quite a few people that don't have any problem with gay people BUT believe marriage IS between a man and woman as that is how it is defined in the bible. It's unfortunate but that's how it is 😕

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                • raphjd
                  raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                  Without the word "marriage", we lose a lot of rights from the get go.

                  The US bases it's laws on marriage and none on civil unions. Between local, state and federal laws we are missing out on over 14,000 protections/rights because we can't get married.

                  Even if a state allows gay marriage, it does not transfer to the federal gov level; ie the IRS.

                  The UK has a "separate, but unequal" stance in the way civil unions work. Of course this isn't even mentioning anything to do with immigration and other international issues.

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                    viscous last edited by

                    I don't think Schwarzenegger personally cares whether or not same-sex marriage is legal in California. His chief of staff is a lesbian, and he equivocated earlier this year about whether he woud sign a same-sex marriage bill if it passed in the CA legislature.

                    The Calif. legislature did pass a bill legalizing same-sex marriage in 2005 (the only state legislature to do so) but Schwarzenegger vetoed it – almost certainly for political reasons. He didn't want to be embroiled in the referendum that would be sure to follow.

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