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    • Frederick
      Frederick last edited by

      If you want to talk about meddling in elections… you can't ignore these two incidents...

      Bill Clinton blatantly interfered with the Russian elections to get drunken Boris Yeltsin elected
      https://lewrockwell.com/2017/02/bionic-mosquito/clinton-interferes-russian-elections/

      Hillary Clinton blatantly interfered with the Russian elections to prevent Putin from getting elected, but as always, Hillary FAILED.
      http://time.com/4422723/putin-russia-hillary-clinton/

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        pppucci last edited by

        Interesting how you start this thread instead of replying to you previous one asking how Russia meddled in 2016.
        Hillary Clinton making a public statement about free and open elections in Russia as Secretary of State is hardly meddling,  Bill Clinton's political advice to Yeltsin is perhaps more questionable, but unless you can allege or better yet prove, a massive CIA covert operation in either case, you are comparing apples to oranges.

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          aadam101 last edited by

          So because we did it  to them we should just sit back and let them do it to us?

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          • Frederick
            Frederick last edited by

            @pppucci:

            Interesting how you start this thread instead of replying to you previous one asking how Russia meddled in 2016.
            Hillary Clinton making a public statement about free and open elections in Russia as Secretary of State is hardly meddling,  Bill Clinton's political advice to Yeltsin is perhaps more questionable, but unless you can allege or better yet prove, a massive CIA covert operation in either case, you are comparing apples to oranges.

            I only gave 2 examples that I found within 5 minutes.  There is a lot more.

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            • Frederick
              Frederick last edited by

              @aadam101:

              So because we did it  to them we should just sit back and let them do it to us?

              No, but there is MASSIVE hypocrisy on the part of the media and democrats in congress in how hypocritical they are.

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                sutieday last edited by

                @aadam101:

                So because we did it  to them we should just sit back and let them do it to us?

                Exactly, Trump supporters don't care about people having the right to vote, and they don't care to protect it

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                  pppucci last edited by

                  @Frederick:

                  I only gave 2 examples that I found within 5 minutes.  There is a lot more.

                  Do any of those examples involve hacks of political opponents?  Do any of those examples involve infiltrating the voter rolls of a foreign country?  Do any of those examples involve social media bots strategically deployed in swing states?

                  If you can cite anything similar, educate me.  Otherwise, you are just trying to deflect, and not very artfully.

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                  • Frederick
                    Frederick last edited by

                    @pppucci:

                    @Frederick:

                    I only gave 2 examples that I found within 5 minutes.  There is a lot more.

                    Do any of those examples involve hacks of political opponents?  Do any of those examples involve infiltrating the voter rolls of a foreign country?  Do any of those examples involve social media bots strategically deployed in swing states?

                    If you can cite anything similar, educate me.  Otherwise, you are just trying to deflect, and not very artfully.

                    Hmm.. how about Hillary Clinton stealing the nomination from Bernie Sanders?

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                      pppucci last edited by

                      @Frederick:

                      Hmm.. how about Hillary Clinton stealing the nomination from Bernie Sanders?

                      Not true and not  a good analogy.  Hillary would have won the nomination even if Bernie had eked out more delegates in the primaries.  Whether you agree with the system or not, she had the vast majority of super delegates.

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