California Court Rules in Favor of Christian Baker Who Refused To Bake Cake for Lesbian Wedding
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@raphjd I totally agree with this decision. What are your thoughts about it?
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I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, not just this case but the whole believers can discriminate against me but I can't discriminate against them.
We can thank the Dems for the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which originally enshrined this crap into law.
If I was allowed to discriminate against believers, as well, then there would be equality.
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@raphjd I guess that's one view. Still this woman should have the ability to choose not to make them a cake if she wants. Gay people seem to forget how good they have it in countries like the US and Canada. These people are making a big deal over a damn wedding cake. While they are allowed to marry there is still plenty of other countries where being gay is punishable by death.
I get these woman feel discriminated in this situation but they should still be grateful they can live without fear of being killed for their sexuality.That's just my thoughts but I do see where your coming from with yours.
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If I was in a similar position, I don't think I would have brought the case to court. In my view, if a baker does not want to sell me a cake I am going to the next one...the baker loses a client and I support a more tolerant bussiness.
However, I am not happy with this decision. Freedom from discrimination in the provision of services is very importnat and this decision paves a road: now it is a baker, next it will be a restaurant and a hotel, next it will be a doctor , next it will be discrimination in the employement and so on....and suddenly we dive in a new wave of intolerance. This decision sends the message that we do not deserve the same amount of respect in society.
@trevor613...I am not sure I agree with you. Just because we are not persecuted in some countries does not mean that we should be compromised with an incoplete form of equality. We deserve to be fully equal and be respected in the society that we live and contribute. This is not something that was granted to us as a form of charity. We fought for it for so many years.
Finaly, even though I can understand the need to balance religious beliefs and non-discrimination in the provision of services, I cannot fully understand how making a cake for a lesbian couple can interevene in somebody's religious practice. It is just businness and it would be more prefereble if someone could keep his religious beliefs outside thw business environment.
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Just curious, isn't the state of California included in their protective class the sexual oriention that businesses cannot refused of service?
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@kalayaan Yes, the Unruh Civil Rights Act prohibits any business in California from engaging in unlawful discrimination against all persons (consumers) within California's jurisdiction, where the unlawful discrimination is in part based on a person's sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, age, disability, medical condition, genetic information, marital status, sexual orientation, citizenship, primary language, or immigration status.
Apparently the judge decided that the baker's right to religious freedom and "artistic" expression overthrows the non-discrimination act.
By digging a little to the case, I find it important that the baker was represented pro bono by lawyers of a conservative coalition. Also, her case was capitalized by conservative media as a victory of the "moral" people over the sinful.
