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    • raphjd
      raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9080801/Killer-allowed-STAY-UK-harm-people-Albania.html

      An Albanian murderer CAN NOT be deported from the UK, because he might harm the people of Albania a UK judge has ruled.

      He also entered the UK illegally.

      It is illegal, under the same Human Rights laws, to force a free person to take their meds even when they are proven to be a danger to society if they don't.

      This is part of why the UK needed Brexit.

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        Adverse last edited by

        The Daily Mail is hardly a credible source for anything.

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        • Spintendo
          Spintendo last edited by

          I'm forced to agree with Raphjd. There is no reason why this individual shouldn't be deported to Albania after their sentence is served. Any future non-compliance in their medication use is ultimately Albania's problem to worry about, not the UK's. But as they were given a life sentence, I don't see how deportation is even being considered.

          I'm also confused about the second part….. are the EU "Human rights laws" against forcing a free person to take their meds being mentioned here to highlight the disparity between free people and prisoners, or the disparity between EU and UK applications of human rights? This Albanian appears to take their meds voluntarily, according to that same DailyMail article.


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          • raphjd
            raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

            Currently, there is no disparity between the UK and the EU when it comes to human rights laws.  The UK is stuck under whatever nonsense the EU decides.

            While he may take his meds voluntarily now, there is no way to force him to take his meds as a free man.  This means there is no way to prevent him from becoming a danger to people in the UK, just as there is no way to prevent him from becoming a danger to people in Albania.

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            • Spintendo
              Spintendo last edited by

              Well he wouldn't/shouldn't/couldn't be deported until his sentence was served, right? Since he was given life in prison, his deportation back home to Albania would be in a body bag, at which point his access to medications would no longer be an issue for him.

              A bigger question is why he would want to take medication while in jail. Antipsychotics make people rational. How anyone could purposely want rationality in such a place is beyond me


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              • raphjd
                raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                The UK is weak on crime, in most cases.  It's extremely rare for life to mean life, even for 1st-degree murder.

                As I understand it, he was convicted of the murder but was also ruled insane so he was sent to a hospital prison.

                I think he took his meds so he could get out early.  It's like how criminals get religion in prison.

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