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      mhorndisk last edited by

      I am a Trump supporter, but I'm not ok with him banning trans. Dammit.

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      • raphjd
        raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

        I'm not sure how I feel about it.

        I fully support former trans (completed trans) joining the military.

        I'm not sure I support joining the military so the taxpayer has to pay for your transition.  Not to mention all the time you will not be able to work.

        What do we do when the loony "trans" like Elliot Cope, Milo Stewart, Riley Denis and Dakota want to join?

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        • Frederick
          Frederick last edited by

          @raphjd:

          I'm not sure how I feel about it.

          I fully support former trans (completed trans) joining the military.

          I'm not sure I support joining the military so the taxpayer has to pay for your transition.   Not to mention all the time you will not be able to work.

          What do we do when the loony "trans" like Elliot Cope, Milo Stewart, Riley Denis and Dakota want to join?

          I wonder how they are defining Trans…
          men who wear women's clothes
          men who have had breast implants
          men who have had their penises removed
          men or women taking hormones  (estrogen, testosterone)
          and what about gay people?  or bi?
          What about people who are born with both a penis and a vagina?
          What about males that are born with undeveloped penises which are raised as female?

          My understanding is that very few men go through with having their penis removed.  It is not clear whether or not Caitlyn Jenner had his/her penis removed.

          Seems to me, that the number of people involved in being trans is VERY small.. certainly under 100.

          I can see how a person wanting to become trans would join the military, then say they discovered they are trans - just to get their transformation paid for by the taxpayers.

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          • Frederick
            Frederick last edited by

            @mhorndisk:

            I am a Trump supporter, but I'm not ok with him banning trans. Dammit.

            I agree.. it was something that Trump should have kept his nose out of.  It is not a significant issue. 
            I can't resist mentioning one thing… J Edgar Hoover who was the head of the FBI for 48 years was a cross dresser, and homosexual - who was notorious for blackmailing other people for being homosexuals.  Takes one to know one.  I wonder if he would be banned from being in the FBI because he liked to wear pink lace panties and a bra.

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              mhorndisk last edited by

              Over 2,300 allegedly are trans in the military. I don't like the idea of a pervert taking advantage of the process or the taxpayers funding the bill, and not saying that trans are perverts, but some are, when you pay a doctor to do something and he's part of your organization, the cost is just a day, not 70 thousand dollars. I don't think it's as pricey as they claim. I'm not really that upset about it, but I wish Trump would have just left it alone. It's not really saving millions of dollars and there are far more important things to take care of.

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              • Frederick
                Frederick last edited by

                @mhorndisk:

                Over 2,300 allegedly are trans in the military. I don't like the idea of a pervert taking advantage of the process or the taxpayers funding the bill, and not saying that trans are perverts, but some are, when you pay a doctor to do something and he's part of your organization, the cost is just a day, not 70 thousand dollars. I don't think it's as pricey as they claim. I'm not really that upset about it, but I wish Trump would have just left it alone. It's not really saving millions of dollars and there are far more important things to take care of.

                Imagine having a drag queen as a general.. that bitch would nuke everyone!

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                  mhorndisk last edited by

                  LOL you're gonna die! You're gonna die! And you get to die!  :hug:

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                  • Frederick
                    Frederick last edited by

                    No trans in the military…

                    That reminded me of the greatest fighting force of all time.. a tiny group of men who were extremely successful - The SPARTANS - who were a band of merry Marys.    There was Troy, Lucius,  Bootius, Maximus, Cutius, Brucius, and Percius.

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                      aadam101 last edited by

                      @raphjd:

                      I'm not sure I support joining the military so the taxpayer has to pay for your transition.  Not to mention all the time you will not be able to work.

                      Why not? The military actively advertises that it will pay for your education.  They use it as a recruiting tool.  Why should healthcare be any different?

                      Also the military spends 10x the amount on viagra that they spend on transgender healthcare (not just reassignment surgery but all healthcare)

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                        mhorndisk last edited by

                        If that's true that they pay more for Viagra then we have a major problem.

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                        • raphjd
                          raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                          @aadam101:

                          @raphjd:

                          I'm not sure I support joining the military so the taxpayer has to pay for your transition.   Not to mention all the time you will not be able to work.

                          Why not? The military actively advertises that it will pay for your education.  They use it as a recruiting tool.  Why should healthcare be any different?

                          Also the military spends 10x the amount on viagra that they spend on transgender healthcare (not just reassignment surgery but all healthcare)

                          The military trades education for time served.

                          Trans-sexuals don't exchange anything for their transition, except less working time.    This can be over a year of no duty to very light duty if the transition isn't done in a single operation, which isn't normal.    Of course this doesn't include time off for the required mental evaluations and whatnot.

                          Those getting Viagra are still working.

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                          • Frederick
                            Frederick last edited by

                            @raphjd:

                            I'm not sure how I feel about it.

                            I fully support former trans (completed trans) joining the military.

                            I'm not sure I support joining the military so the taxpayer has to pay for your transition.   Not to mention all the time you will not be able to work.

                            What do we do when the loony "trans" like Elliot Cope, Milo Stewart, Riley Denis and Dakota want to join?

                            It would be nice to have an all female military like the Amazon Women.  Let them get their asses shot off for a change.

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                              spam17 last edited by

                              @mhorndisk:

                              I am a Trump supporter, but I'm not ok with him banning trans. Dammit.

                              I guess that he also used to have some trans supporters..

                              ;D

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