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    LIBERALS: Defend CNN sponsorship of TRUMP ASSASSINATION PLAY

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      mhorndisk last edited by

      You guys are all playing on this big sad face civility lie, the next trick in your play book, and yet you don't call out your own when they are assassinating a sitting President in Central Park. Is that civil? You're terrible actors, just like them. If they did that to Obama, wow you guys would be shitting bricks for months. Acting like this is remotely acceptable? There is seriously something wrong with you.

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        Devken last edited by

        'Death by a thousand cuts': LGBT rights fading under Trump, advocates say

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/30/lgbt-rights-under-trump

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          mhorndisk last edited by

          LOOK! Over there! Don't look here. I don't believe that either, fyi. And yes, Sutie, I saw you were reading this when I got a thumbs down. It's ok. I know you don't have the ability to answer the post or engage in an ACTUAL debate.

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            pppucci last edited by

            @mhorndisk:

            You guys are all playing on this big sad face civility lie, the next trick in your play book, and yet you don't call out your own when they are assassinating a sitting President in Central Park. Is that civil? You're terrible actors, just like them. If they did that to Obama, wow you guys would be shitting bricks for months. Acting like this is remotely acceptable? There is seriously something wrong with you.

            Do you read the news?  Name the title of the play.

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              mhorndisk last edited by

              Seriously? It's called JULIUS CESAR. Ever heard of it?

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                Devken last edited by

                @mhorndisk:

                Seriously? It's called JULIUS CESAR. Ever heard of it?

                Yes, I've heard of it, have you? They depicted Tony Blair and Obama in the past.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Caesar_(play)#Contemporary_political_references

                Contemporary political references

                Modern adaptions of the play have often made contemporary political references,[44] with Caesar depicted as resembling a variety of political leaders, including Huey Long, Margaret Thatcher, and Tony Blair.[45] Professor A. J. Hartley, the Robinson Chair of Shakespeare Studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, states that this is fairly "common trope" of Julius Caesar performances: "Throughout the 20th century and into the 21st, the rule has been to create a recognisable political world within the production. And often people in the title role itself look like or feel like somebody either in recent or current politics."[45] A 2012 production of Julius Caesar by the Guthrie Theatre and The Acting Company "presented Caesar in the guise of a black actor who was meant to suggest President Obama."[44] This production was not particularly controversial.[44] In 2017, however, a modern adaptation of the play at New York's Shakespeare in the Park (performed by The Public Theater) depicted Caesar with the likeness of President Donald Trump and thereby aroused ferocious controversy, drawing criticism by right-wing media such as The Daily Caller and Breitbart and prompting corporate sponsors Bank of America and Delta Airlines to pull their financial support.[44][46][47][48] The Public Theater stated that the message of the play is not pro-assassination and that the point is that "those who attempt to defend democracy by undemocratic means pay a terrible price and destroy the very thing they are fighting to save." Shakespeare scholars Stephen Greenblatt[49] and Peter Holland agreed with this statement.[45] Pallotta stated that "I have never read anyone suggesting that 'Julius Caesar' is a play that recommends assassination. Look what happens: Caesar is assassinated to stop him becoming a dictator. Result: civil war, massive slaughter, creation of an emperor, execution of many who sympathized with the conspiracy. Doesn't look much like a successful result for the conspirators to me."[45] The play was interrupted several times by right-wing protesters, who accused the play of "violence against the right", and actors and members of theatres with Shakespeare in the name has been harassed and received death threats, including the wife of the play's director Oskar Eustis.[50][51][52][53] The protests were praised by American Family Association director Sandy Rios who compared the play with the execution of Christians by damnatio ad bestias.[54]

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                  pppucci last edited by

                  @mhorndisk:

                  Seriously? It's called JULIUS CESAR. Ever heard of it?

                  Exactly.  Written 400 years ago.  Was Shakespeare predicting the future?  Should he be prosecuted posthumously by the Secret Service?  Simply dressing up Caesar to resemble Trump is not calling for the assassination of the president.  It is an effort to make an ancient play modern.

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                    mhorndisk last edited by

                    No, it's not.

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                      pppucci last edited by

                      @mhorndisk:

                      No, it's not.

                      This is the kind of post that shows you are not open  to debate.  But your original post implied hypocrisy on the part of those calling for civility on this board while not criticizing a play about a Roman Emperor who is betrayed to resemble Trumo. What does one have to do with the other? Even if there was rioting on the streets, we can treat each other with respect here.

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