Is it possible (and fair) to seed torrents using files not downloaded from here?
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I uploaded a torrent about two days ago. I checked multiple times if there is an active duplicate torrent for it, and there was none. Although I am not sure if there is a dead duplicate for the torrent that I uploaded coz I didn't check for it. About an hour or so after I uploaded my more than 1 Gig of torrent, there were almost 30 snatchers already. Even before I completely uploaded my torrent, which until now I am only able to seed about 200+MB. Now almost all of these snatchers are now seeding the torrent, maybe started with a few of them, and reach more than 30.
Now the way I understand this, and I am fairly new with torrenting and the site, if my file is a duplicate of an active torrent, then I wouldn't mind. But if these snatchers, who seeded for the torrent I uploaded, used a, for a lack of better term, ghost torrent, a dead torrent which they reseeded or worse a torrent which is not is not from the site, then I feel that is unfair.
My upload speed is not as fast as the others, and I can't compete with their speed seeding freeleech torrents, so I put extra effort uploading new torrents to increase my upload/ratio, and I feel robbed with what happened. I don't know if I should feel that way, as I don't know the complexities of torrenting and the rules in this site, but if someone can enlighten me, then that would awesome.
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What you describe (30 seeding peers after only one hour) sounds rather like you re-uploaded a torrent which were removed upon and the other members had still loaded into their torrent client. If that happens, the torrent client will automatically reconnect to the torrent.
If your torrent would be a 100% duplicate, I mean with that same hash, than an existing torrent (dead or not), the upload script won't allow the upload. If it is for the same file(s), but got a different has, the system won't recognise and let it pass.
Having someone seed more than 1 GB in an hour requires ~290 KB/s upload rate. That is possible for seedbox owners. They could indeed jump-on a torrent if they have the file from somewhere else, using the re-seed procedure(s).
I think jumping-on an initial seed, while it is seeded, is unfair.
However, jumping-on an abandoned initial seed or an old dead torrent or a reseed requested torrent is welcome.
It is extremely difficult to monitor jump-ons and determine what case it is, because that would require real time surveillance of all torrents, simply next to impossible with reasonable system resources.
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Thank you for responding and enlightening me. And I agree, jumping on initial seeding is unfair. It will drive away those trying and willing uploaders.
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But if these snatchers, who seeded for the torrent I uploaded, used a, for a lack of better term, ghost torrent, a dead torrent which they reseeded or worse a torrent which is not is not from the site, then I feel that is unfair.
There are two additional ways of guarding against this activity; however both have problems.
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Rendering the clip into another format (i.e., mp4 to wmv, etc.)
Caveat: This will degrade the quality of the clip. -
If the file is an mp4, you can change the extension without rendering it to m4v. This will stop those and their torrent clients who will see it as another format.
Caveat: It will only slow down those who know it is not.
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IMOHO I would consider that a duplicate ..
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Exchangeable digital file container format file name extensions are indeed considered the same and duplicate if same size. Some examples:
mpeg <=> mpg <=> dat (VCD)
avi <=> divx
mp4 <=> m4v <=> movHowever, a torrent to be duplicate, there must be available another original. That wouldn't be the case here, because the subject is to prevent easy jump-on by members who got the file from other places.
