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      lockedbashed last edited by

      Wanted to know how many people believe in  religion and what is their idea of homosexuality and religion?

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        Anyone?

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          nordicblue last edited by

          https://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=26576.msg135446#msg135446

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            musclejizz 0 last edited by

            I don't care for it. God is real. Whatever. God isn't real. Whatever. I live my life my way and my successess, my failures, that's all mine alone. God didn't do it. I did.

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              scramer last edited by

              I'm nonreligious.

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                LEVI last edited by

                @lockedbashed:

                Wanted to know how many people believe in  religion and what is their idea of homosexuality and religion?

                Very religious.

                I follow my faith. It might not be how others in my faith believe but as I tell them that is between my God and myself not between me and them.

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                  lockedbashed last edited by

                  i want to be religious but i find it tough.. actually i think its the way one person relates to religion.. I was brought up with the perception tht religion has to be fullcircle.. that is being a good human.. knowing your religion..do good.. and so on.. Its very tough for me to ignore one aspect and consider myself religious.. most of the worl somehow manages to separate the 2.. but i find it difficult

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                    lockedbashed last edited by

                    @musclejizz:

                    I don't care for it. God is real. Whatever. God isn't real. Whatever. I live my life my way and my successess, my failures, that's all mine alone. God didn't do it. I did.

                    i guess Your right .. i guess that the best way.. You are your own moral compass

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                      lockedbashed last edited by

                      @LEVI:

                      @lockedbashed:

                      Wanted to know how many people believe in  religion and what is their idea of homosexuality and religion?

                      Very religious.

                      I follow my faith. It might not be how others in my faith believe but as I tell them that is between my God and myself not between me and them.

                      'not judging' but sounds more like God here is your conscious

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                        pizcatote last edited by

                        I am not religious. The idea of a God over us is unreal for me, it has no logic. We are not more than another animal creature on earth.

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                          LEVI last edited by

                          @lockedbashed:

                          @LEVI:

                          @lockedbashed:

                          Wanted to know how many people believe in  religion and what is their idea of homosexuality and religion?

                          Very religious.

                          I follow my faith. It might not be how others in my faith believe but as I tell them that is between my God and myself not between me and them.

                          'not judging' but sounds more like God here is your conscious

                          Not really. I am just going to live my life the way I want to without anybody else telling me if something is wrong or not. That is up to me and my god to decide.

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                            @lockedbashed:

                            @LEVI:

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                            Wanted to know how many people believe in  religion and what is their idea of homosexuality and religion?

                            Very religious.

                            I follow my faith. It might not be how others in my faith believe but as I tell them that is between my God and myself not between me and them.

                            'not judging' but sounds more like God here is your conscious

                            Ur right i guess.. but everyone's conscious is not the same.. hence all the world problems arise

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                              nordicblue last edited by

                              The possibilities defined by Pascal's Wager can be thought of as a decision under uncertainty with the values of the following decision matrix.

                              | | God exists (G) | God does not exist (¬G) |
                              | Belief (B) | +∞ (infinite gain) | −1 (finite loss) |
                              | Disbelief (¬B) | −∞ (infinite loss) | +1 (finite gain) |

                              The wager uses the following logic (excerpts from Pensées, part III, §233):

                              God is, or God is not. Reason cannot decide between the two alternatives.
                                 A Game is being played… where heads or tails will turn up.
                                 You must wager (it is not optional).
                                 Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
                                 Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.
                                 But some cannot believe. They should then 'at least learn your inability to believe...' and 'Endeavour then to convince' themselves.

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                                raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                                Believing in god, just in case, is extremely dishonest.

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                                  whoreduck last edited by

                                  I'm religious enough, believe in God and church, but not going every Sunday in church and not a big fan of priests.

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                                    myrea last edited by

                                    I'm a kind of spiritual that hates the words "faith" "belief" and "dogma" so not really religeous, just a wanderer really 🙂

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                                      uzuzjh last edited by

                                      i dont like to talk about my faith as i dont like people to do the same. anyone who's preachin n stuff's nutts in my eye. it only drags people away from "god" or whatever you want to call it.

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                                        nordicblue last edited by

                                        @raphjd:

                                        Believing in god, just in case, is extremely dishonest.

                                        It is not "just in case".  It is choosing to believe based upon the reasons stated earlier.  Dishonest to whom?  Definitely not to God, because he would know anyway.

                                        @nordicblue:

                                        The possibilities defined by Pascal's Wager can be thought of as a decision under uncertainty with the values of the following decision matrix.

                                        | | God exists (G) | God does not exist (¬G) |
                                        | Belief (B) | +∞ (infinite gain) | −1 (finite loss) |
                                        | Disbelief (¬B) | −∞ (infinite loss) | +1 (finite gain) |

                                        The wager uses the following logic (excerpts from Pensées, part III, §233):

                                        God is, or God is not. Reason cannot decide between the two alternatives.
                                           A Game is being played… where heads or tails will turn up.
                                           You must wager (it is not optional).
                                           Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
                                           Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.
                                           But some cannot believe. They should then 'at least learn your inability to believe...' and 'Endeavour then to convince' themselves.

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                                        • raphjd
                                          raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                                          It is believing "just in case".

                                          If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.

                                          Pascal's Wager is all about; all things being equal, you should believe just in case you are wrong.

                                          It's the same logic kids use for Santa and the Easter Bunny.

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                                            I am not religious and it is a big mystery for me why some people are religious. I just don't get it. For me everything makes much more sense without a god (gods, goddesses etc)

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