well, maybe us Europeans are more liberal, Stealfire, but i've had exactly the same experience here in the UK. lads i've brought home from a club or whatever will happily get up to virtually anything upstairs in bed, but when we stumble drunkenly to the bathroom (alright, they stumble drunkenly and i follow them), they seem to clam up. i reckon it's just such a social taboo… as a race we're slowly (praise Jah) managing to wean ourselves off tyhe idea that sex is dirty, but piss is still subject to that good old intricate web of guilt/shame/uncleanliness/sin spun by the church and state. sin and social disgrace... don't ya just love the way we think about things?
it's changing, but change never comes quick enough when it involves freeing people from stupid moral and social conditioning. piss movies are being released now that don't just assume that if you're into w/s you're a leather stud or hairy bear - absolutely no offence, by the way, if you fall into either category, old mate. some of my best friends are leather men and hairy bears. but i'm not, and it's nice to see things changing.. because the fact that it's slowly ceasing to be seen as part of a very precise niche means that it's starting to become more accepted, or at least less reviled, by gay society as a whole. and, heaven help us, if it becomes popular on the gay scene, even heterosexuals might start doing it ;D
so chin up, mate. there is hope. hopefully. probably.
hope you don't mind me chipping in my two, er, cents. just joined this fantastic site yesterday, currently still wandering around like a kid in a candy store happy holidays!