Religious symbols in porn
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Is it just me or does anyone else find religiously themed porn offensive?
I wouldn't mind if porn depicting priests, monks or other clergy, along with anyone wearing symbols or attire showing one's faith in were entirely prohibited. Just my opinion, don't chastise me for it!
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@chuckBKK While I understand that it's not for you, there are some people who kind of have a religious fetish. The most common one in the straight world is Catholic school girls. In the gay pron world, we call them Mormon boys.
Having been raised Catholic and knowing first hand the kinds of things that go on in the Catholic church, I'm personally not really a fan as the reality of religious based sex (at least in the Catholic church) is in fact based on pedophilia.
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@chuckBKK said in Religious symbols in porn:
Just my opinion, don't chastise me for it!
Why wouldn't I? You're saying that something should be forbidden solely because you don't like it, are people supposed to just abide to whatever you think?
I think you should be banned...
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@MrMazda But that's just it. Having a religious fetish is what it is, it doesn't bother me, but displaying religious symbols as an expression of freedom has oftentimes caused death and terror. Using these symbols for porn is at least not pc, and not to mention the circumstance that pedophiles are frequently enabled by clergy porn with very young-looking models. Given that the proliferation of conflict between religions has historically been highly charged and even caused wars, this might just become my pet peeve. And again, is it wrong to debate this?
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For the most part, we have a free-speech world view here.
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@chuckBKK Nothing wrong with a debate, as long as it is debating facts and not launching personal attacks.
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@MrMazda All right, here are some facts. I asked my savvy AI friend a few questions...
In the past century, there have been many instances where individuals or groups have committed acts of violence in the name of their religion. Also, governments under the banner of atheistic communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 to 259,432,000 human lives.
All the religions of the world contain narratives, symbols, and metaphors of violence and war. Religious violence is motivated by, or in reaction to, religious precepts, texts, or the doctrines of a target or an aggressor.
There have been instances where conflicts have turned into violence due to religious symbols or attire worn by worshippers. For example, in 2015, a Sikh man was attacked in the United Kingdom by a group of men who attempted to remove his turban. In 2017, a Muslim woman in the United States was attacked and had her hijab forcibly removed by a stranger.
Religious fanaticism, or religious extremism, is a term used to indicate uncritical zeal or obsessive enthusiasm that is related to one’s own, or one’s group’s, devotion to a religion. This can manifest in many ways, including violence.
In Christianity, some of those in authority have sought to expand and control the church, often through the fanatical use of force. For example, the Crusades were a series of religious wars waged by the Catholics, sanctioned by the Pope, to conquer the Holy Land from the Muslims. On their way to conquering the Holy Land from the Muslims by force of arms, the crusaders destroyed dozens of Jewish communities and killed thousands because the Jews would not accept the Christian faith.
In Islam, there have been instances where individuals or groups have committed acts of violence in the name of their religion. For example, terrorist organizations such as Al-Qaeda and ISIS have committed acts of violence.
There have been conflicts between Buddhism and other religions, including the Rohingya in Myanmar and Islam at the border between Thailand and Malaysia.
In Myanmar, there is an ongoing conflict in the northern part of Rakhine State, characterized by sectarian violence between the Rohingya Muslim and Rakhine Buddhist communities, a military crackdown on Rohingya civilians by Myanmar’s security forces, and militant attacks by Rohingya insurgents. The conflict arises chiefly from the religious and social differentiation between the Rakhine Buddhists and Rohingya Muslims.
In Thailand, there have been instances of violence between Buddhists and Muslims at the border with Malaysia. The conflict is rooted in a complex mix of ethnic, religious, and political factors.
All this is to say that religions and their resulting fanaticism have caused more harm than short-lived pleasure in a porn flick.
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@chuckBKK No offense intended, but your AI friend is a bore who speaks in broad generalizations, but also cites specific instances of events which may or may not be relevant to the religion in general. So at this point it seems well suited to superficial conversation, but I don't see any insights or things I didn't mostly already know. In other words, it's well suited to replace popular media and most social media content
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@chuckBKK Yes... The history is actually probably even more extensive than just what you've stated if you really dig back. That kind of thing has a lot to do with why I steer away from all organized religions as a general rule.
They may bring comfort and guidance to some, however their roots and origins are usually rather troublesome. Now, that said, it can be said that there are extremist "terrorists" in just about any group of people, no matter how you categorize it.
So... While the roots and origins of most religions may be rather troublesome, there are some in each religion that take things with a grain of salt and are genuinely decent and peaceful people. As for bringing up religion in porn, it is totally not for me, but whatever floats your boat and gets you off, as long as it is not causing harm to anyone.
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One might say religion is the reason for controversy, but that's not my point. However, given the many incidents and pure facts, as dull as they might be for some, and the vast number of pain, death and terror these conflicts have caused, why do we so publicly indulge in using their symbols while giving a means for sexual gratification?
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This thread makes me think of the word game where one alphabet is altered in each succession...
BORE - BORN - PORN.It starts with something and ends up with something different.
I do not advocate for any side but I do not believe ANY religious group would accept porn in the first place. There are so many varieties (gangbang, fisting, urination, incest etc.) While some may find it tasteful others may be offended. Instead of going deep in the abyss, I find ignorance to be the best policy - don't like it then don't watch (or download
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@chuckBKK said in Religious symbols in porn:
One might say religion is the reason for controversy, but that's not my point. However, given the many incidents and pure facts, as dull as they might be for some, and the vast number of pain, death and terror these conflicts have caused, why do we so publicly indulge in using their symbols while giving a means for sexual gratification?
I know it's stretching things a bit, but one could apply a similar train of thought to military porn. The military in general is responsible for things that would turn the stomachs of a huge percentage of the population, but I've never heard people suggest that it shouldn't be allowed.
I respect your moral standpoint, but I have to agree with @OKCancel saying that if you don't agree with it then just avoid it.
