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    Most Americans Disagree With Church Teaching On Homosexuality, Abortion

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    • raphjd
      raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

      The US and UK allow for contractual adoptions (ie surrogates, etc), which would allow for the adopting parents to pay.  However, if you go through the state's adoption process, then that's not an option.

      Besides forcing a rape victim to carry the baby (extremely cruel), why should a business have to pay maternity leave so the woman can be forced to give birth to the rape baby?

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      • MrMazda
        MrMazda Global Moderator last edited by

        That remains at the choice of the mother. I'm not saying that in a case of rape it's "wrong" to get an abortion, because that steps into a whole new world of things to consider. Should the mother choose to carry through, it is treated the same as having had the baby through consensual means.

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        • raphjd
          raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

          As it is now, the system works the same if the mother wants to put the baby up for adoption or keep it.

          Anyway, bringing a baby to full term is a lot more expensive than an abortion, so based on sheer economics, the choice is clear.  Not to mention that a child born into poverty will die in poverty. Class mobility is extremely rare.

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          • N
            notquiteme last edited by

            I wouldn't throw economics into it.  It turns people into statistics.

            I believe in the promise of each sunrise.

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            • raphjd
              raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

              To deny the economics of the situation is to deny reality.

              We don't live in a moneyless utopia.

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                notquiteme last edited by

                so is a baby a choice?

                I believe in the promise of each sunrise.

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                • raphjd
                  raphjd Forum Administrator last edited by

                  YES, having a baby is a choice.

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                  • N
                    notquiteme last edited by

                    okay.  i just think that abortion is only allowed under highly specific extenuating circumstances

                    but everyone's entitled to their opinion

                    I believe in the promise of each sunrise.

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