UK liberals and nationalists - why I hate them
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I'm a dual national; US/UK.
In the UK, it's wonderful to be a nationalist (Scottish, Welsh, NI), unless you are an English nationalist. If you are an English nationalist, you are literally worse than Hitler. The other "countries" in the UK get to celebrate their patron's day, but England can't because being proud to be English makes you an IST.
NI, Scottish and Welsh nationalists, despite wanting to leave the UK, want to force the UK to remain in the EU. Quite hypocritical, I must say. If you want to leave the UK, then work on that, not on trying to force the UK to stay in the EU.
I just watched a Welsh nationalist on Channel 4 (I think) and he's adamant that the UK must stay in the EU while talking about independence. He also blamed Westminster for absolutely everything, even the stuff that is devolved.
Scotland is the same. Everything is Westminster's fault, even when the issue is devolved. The SNP have been in power for 12 years, yet they can't/won't pass an all party supported parking bill, an issue that has been devolved from the start. They also blame Westminster for welfare, despite it being devolved for 3 years and the SNP declaring that Holyrood WON'T take it over until at least 2024 at the earliest. Oddly, Holyrood raised income taxes to bolster welfare, but since they don't deal with welfare, they haven't told us what they are doing with the extra money.
The Labour Party is lead by Jeremy Corbyn, who hasn't met a terrorist he hasn't worshipped. He was a staunch anti-EUer, but recently he decided he loves the EU. The Labour Party is a jew hating party since Corbyn took over, but it was there under the surface before that.
Watching anything on Brexit and the TV networks are extremely biased. The BBC is by far the worst, but Channel 4 is very close behind them. The BBC political show Question Time has had to hosts over the last 4 years and both are staunch remainers. They have 5 panel guests and 4 are always remain and 5th person is about 75% of the of the time a Brexiteer, but 25% of the time a remainer.
Discussions about Brexit are always the same. Remainers demonize Brexiteers, like Trump supporters in the US. They use the shotgun defense loaded with so many lies that there isn't time on TV/radio shows to debunk all of them.
If you listen to liberals, I have my LGBT rights thanks to the EU, which is total bullshit. The EU has not LGBT rights laws and allows member states to discriminate against LGBTs, as long as it doesn't violate the Human Rights laws.
The EU makes me fund, through taxes, animal blood "sports" like bullfighting and dog fighting because it's "cultural". I fucking despise animal abuse, but the cunts in the EU force me to fund it. Liberals turn a blind eye to this while praising the EU.
The so-called "tampon tax" is mandated by the EU. Under EU VAT rules, necessity items are taxed at 5%. Only a few things, mostly about babies, are tax exempt. Liberals, like always, ignore this, while praising the EU and demonizing nation states.
Of course, the UK also has the violent thugs who beat up anyone they think disagrees with them. Thankfully, it's not as bad the US. There's the idiots that want everything to be free without being able to explain how things will be paid for.
Also, like in the US, UK liberals want open borders with everyone having the imaginary utopia of a living wage, by just having the rich pay for everything. The idiots refuse to accept the several studies that show that if we took every penny from the "rich" it wouldn't even pay the national debt, let alone fund the on going bills.
Likewise, as we recently saw in New York state, they have £27 million for illegal kids to go to college, among many other things, but only have $2.7 million for the kids of fallen soldiers and fallen first responders. The woman that headed the committee that put the bill forward, said she regrets that there wasn't anymore money of those who served the US and the state, but this (funding illegals) was a priority. Likewise, Montel Williams' charity had to buy an old manor house estate and convert it into a rehab for disabled UK soldiers, back when Labour was running the country.
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I know what you are saying, most of it is probably true or has a lot of truth in it. On the other hand, I don't think that you should group the Northern Irish with the other groups. For one thing, they generally want to stay WITHIN the UK, that's their raison d'etre.
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Northern Ireland has 2 sides, divided by religion; catholics vs protestants.
Catholics want to belong to Ireland and protestants want to stay with the UK. Neither side is willing to move to the place they want to be controlled by, so they fight each other in hopes that their choice will win through violence.
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as far as i know scotland prefers to be part of the eu? which in my opinion is very sensible.
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All EU worshippers think that way.
If Scotland wants to be independent, then its idiotic to want to be ruled by the EU. If they must be ruled by the EU, why try to force rUK to stay as well? It's a totally hypocritical stance.
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maybe they dont see it as being ruled by eu but as having support and benefits from the eu membership? kinda like most sensible and smart people would think about it i guess?
All EU worshippers think that way.
If Scotland wants to be independent, then its idiotic to want to be ruled by the EU. If they must be ruled by the EU, why try to force rUK to stay as well? It's a totally hypocritical stance.
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"If you don't agree with me, you're stupid". Yep, that sounds exactly like a liberal.
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not really, i was theorizing that the scottish people might not think the same way you say they think like. being smart about it is just an example of a plausible reason.
"If you don't agree with me, you're stupid". Yep, that sounds exactly like a liberal.
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I'm a dual national; US/UK. I live in Scotland and have done so for the last 14 years.
The rabidly anti-English are the same ones that are pro-EU.
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that doesnt say anything of your ability to understand other people. racist arent really known for their ability to understand other people.
I'm a dual national; US/UK. I live in Scotland and have done so for the last 14 years.
The rabidly anti-English are the same ones that are pro-EU.
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And there it is. I'm done with you.
Like all liberals, you can't have an honest discussion.
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theres nothings dishonest with saying that racists are bad at understanding other people, it's basically a universal fact and the fundamental basis for racism.
@raphjd:And there it is. I'm done with you.
Like all liberals, you can't have an honest discussion.
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Child molesters like you need to call people "racist" and "alt-right" because you have nothing else.
See how that works.
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oh my god is calling me a child molester the best you can do? really very pathetic of you. seems like you want to accuse me of insulting you when its exactly the opposite. childish.
the point i was trying to make is that racist are bad at understanding other people by definition. its cute however that you admit that racist and alt right is something you dont like to be called.
Child molesters like you need to call people "racist" and "alt-right" because you have nothing else.
See how that works.
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If you could read, you would have understood the point I was making. Clearly you are dumber than I thought.
The only "argument" you have is to call your enemies "racist", "alt-right", etc, etc, etc. That is what I don't like. You cant have an honest discussion so you resort to the liberal debate tactics.
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ah, the obvious lies of the alt right people! most people would not try to argue that personal attacks and attempted insults is not the same as "makiing a point". instead it makes you seem ridiculous and naive.
no i mean i like that you consider it an insult to be called alt right and racist, because both are in my opinion really quite bad. but my point is that psyhologically and mentally, racists havent really developed a well functioning understanding of other people, and even if thats quite sad its also fascinating.
If you could read, you would have understood the point I was making. Clearly you are dumber than I thought.
The only "argument" you have is to call your enemies "racist", "alt-right", etc, etc, etc. That is what I don't like. You cant have an honest discussion so you resort to the liberal debate tactics.
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But see, you are a child molester because I dont like what you say.
While it may not be the words you use, its exactly what you do.
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the difference is that you being racist alt right neo nazi is way more feasible based on your opinions here on the forum than randomly calling someone a child molester out of nowhere. you really are ridiculous and naive if you cant spot the difference.
But see, you are a child molester because I dont like what you say.
While it may not be the words you use, its exactly what you do.
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Of course, it is, because you're a liberal.
Let's not forget that it's liberals who are trying to make child molester socially acceptable. What's the new name you guys came up for them? MAP; Minor Attracted Person.
Oh, and how can I be racist, I'm against mostly white Europeans. "Hating" white people can't be racist, or don't you know your own religion?
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hahaha youre really insane if you think being liberal is the same as wanting to make child molestation socially acceptable. its even more insane than the people who extrapolate gay marriage to bestiality. youre making this discussion ridiculous.
@raphjd:Of course, it is, because you're a liberal.
Let's not forget that it's liberals who are trying to make child molester socially acceptable. What's the new name you guys came up for them? MAP; Minor Attracted Person.
Oh, and how can I be racist, I'm against mostly white Europeans. "Hating" white people can't be racist, or don't you know your own religion?
