Uploading ettiquette question
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I understand that some folks seed a torrent many times, and how it can prevent others from doing the same, which can affect ratios.
I can understand how over-uploading on one torrent can help balance the non-uploading of another torrent that has no leeches, so I can't really blame over-seeders, even if does make things harder for the rest of us.
The question: At what ratio is it considered polite to stop uploading and thus allow others to do so? 1? 1.5? ks.
Thanks!
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That is something which is very difficult to answer in a general broad way.
There are configurations where a high share ratio is the result of behaviour positive for the community, without even negative impact or very limited) to other seeder:
1/ Prolific or regular uploader of new own torrents are programmed to build up a very positive share ratio and we all want those new content being shared …
2/ Members investing in big storage space and keeping what they have downloaded over years available will find themselves back as the only last seeder on many torrents. If they are in that situation on enough, they will always upload at the limit of their connection (unless perhaps having a symmetric fibre optics connection) to someone just wanting one of them and seed multiple full copies back. We all need this decentralized storage to keep the library available. Our auto recycling script is rewarding those members, by promoting torrents.
The more members invest into huge storage, the more difficult it becomes to get to the stage of being one of the few last seeder.
Now to something which might be seen the most polemic: Seedbox owners jumping per RSS download in an automated way on new uploaded torrents, with their huge free bandwidth, they will capture most of the initial upload and redistribute it multiple times to the downloading peers in the swarm. They might do that "just" to improve their share ratio and built up a buffer for times without seedbox. Or they really like to get what they download and seed. The effect to other members is the same. It gets more difficult to keep a good share ratio for members without seedbox.
However can we blame members for investing in a seedbox and optimise the use of it? I think no.
I've studied quite a number of the cheaper seedbox plans, in the 1 to 15 Euro/month range. The cheapest lack in number of concurrent torrents (just a handful) and common is a quite limited storage space. Which means members investing in a seedbox are forced to remove downloaded media files quite quickly to optimize the use of the available bandwidth.
Compared to some other private trackers, seeding at gaytorrent.ru remains relatively easy. I know trackers where it is impossible to survive without a seedbox, even with careful selection of torrents and knowing how the dynamics work. This said, compared to a ratioless tracker like gay-torrents.net or even public trackers like The Piratebay it is more difficult.
My conclusion basically is that members need to understand that a high share ratio isn't a (good) purpose on its own. There is no benefit from targeting and working on having a huge share ratio. In this sense it is good that the "Top 10" list has been removed.
From the community a about balanced share ratio is best. Our rationator page says " (…) A ratio around 1.000 means a member shares as much as he downloads and is a good community member. (...)"
Many will target a share ratio of above 1.05 to gain the Power User status and the associated privileges. That is possible and in reach for everyone who really tries, because of Freeleech torrents, the diverse possibilities to earn Bonus Points and Donations. All these are resulting in an average share ratio above the else wise theoretical 1.0000 (one).
Actually I'm for changing the semantics used here. each upload requires someone downloading. Both go in pair. Therefore instead of using the derogative terms leecher(s) and leeching, we should speak about downloading peers and downloading. Real leecher and hit&runners won't be able to be active members for long. Rationator will disable their download rights efficiently.
I've said already at other occasions that we need more downloads. If for example seedbox owners who have uploaded to a high ratio later use that buffer to download, everything gets balanced again and their high bandwidth is beneficial globally.
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Thanks for the info.
Instead of "leechers" we could always say… "bottoms"?
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- controversial ben