Upcoming Changes to the Upload Rules
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To address some recurrent issues with the torrents' presentations GayTorrent.ru's Uploading Rules are going to be amended. Further Guidelines are provided by the Upload Guide.
Here the amended Rules Draft
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Do not submit BANNED material. A list of all currently banned material is located here. If you submit banned material you will receive a warning (
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DUPLICATE files are not allowed and will be removed. You are expected to run a search for duplicates prior to submitting a torrent. Duplicates may be accepted when part of a themed collection. A file is considered a duplicate if an existing torrent has the same format and similar size (<10% difference) and has at least one seeder.
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Porn, not in original DVD Video format, with mainly sexual or fetish interaction involving women must be placed in the Straight older, Straight younger or Bisexual categories.
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If you are unable to seed a new upload, don't submit it until you can. If you are unable to continuously seed, please state so in the comment section of your upload to inform other users of the delay. You MUST CONTINUE SEEDING YOUR TORRENT until at least three or four other members have completely downloaded the file and can continue seeding for you. If you do not seed your upload within 3 days, it will be deleted and need to be resubmitted.
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Upload only ONE NEW TORRENT AT A TIME in order to initially seed your upload as fast as possible. If multiple torrents are uploaded, they MUST be completed within 24 hours.
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All non-porn material must have LGBTQ THEMED CONTENT (Plot / Characters) or involve VOYEURISM of the ADULT MALE PHYSIQUE . Gay-interest, an openly gay actor or minor gay characters are insufficient to meet this requirement. Do NOT upload any themed movies that are released/produced by mainstream cinema / TV studios (see banned list). Examples of voyeuristic material include bodybuilding, wrestling and underwear/swimwear.
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Uploading Music, Music Videos, Mainstream TV Broadcasts, Mainstream Movies, Video Games and Commercial Applications are prohibited.
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Do not upload VIDEO packed in archives (zip, rar, …), password protected files, or material that needs to acquire a license for playing
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A COLLECTION is a group of files that have a well-defined common theme.
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The Title must specify the theme and the degree of completeness (all videos from 2010-2011; full site rip or complete as of a specific month/year; videos from a studio or featuring an actor; numerical series 100-200, 301-499; alphabetical listings of A-C, D-F; n number of clips of a particular porn theme; etc).
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The description must contain a list of all video files or titles, by at least copy/paste the torrent’s file list. Please list video files and titles available through other existing torrents with links to their descriptions.
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A collection may overlap with another collection if it has a different central theme. For example, a collection may include a studio series from #201 to #239; with some duplicate files found in a collection about a specific actor; or a resubmission of a site rip after 3 months in order to keep it updated.
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We only allow exact copies of DVD Videos in image file (.iso, .img) or DVD folder structure (.vob) format so the downloader can keep it in it's original format or convert it to another file type with little quality loss.
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Do NOT upload other file formats (avi, wmv, mpeg, mp4, etc) which were converted into DVD Video.
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All DVD Video uploads must be put in the DVD-R categories regardless of it's content.
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If you knowingly post a DVD that has been shrunk (ie. from DVD9 to DVD5 or dual layer to standard DVD) then you should make a note of that in the description box.
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Any information, e.g. the title, categories, pictures and description must correctly represent the content of the files shared with the torrent and avoid misleading members about the content. This applies as well to additions, votes or comments made by other members than the original uploader. In doubt, rather than providing wrong information, omit it.
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At least one good quality picture is mandatory for the torrent presentation.
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Torrents in the Themed Movie and TV / Episodes categories need to indicate the audio language(s) and, if present, the subtitle language(s), including if optional, forced or hardcoded in the video.
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Descriptions in the title such as "Hot!", "Must See!", "Best Ever!", "New' or "Latest" are unacceptable. The comment area is the only appropriate place to give your personal opinion of the content or otherwise make personal requests. Include the release date, rather than "New", "Latest", etc. …
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Do not plead for bonus seed points in the description area.
Remark: Please provide as much information as possible. For details read the Guidelines in the Upload Guide.
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Questions regarding these requirements may be answered by reading our Upload-Guide and the FAQ. If you have further questions, write the Helpdesk.
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Changes explained:
Most important are the additional rule 3. and the additions to rule 11. Other changes are rather fine-tuning of existing rules or spelling corrections.
3. Torrents for straight and bisexual porn got regularly reported offending members if placed in other porn categories such as mature, anal etc. This new rule 3. ensures that the Profile filter setting to show such porn or not works correctly.
8. Correction of spelling mistake, only
9. Emphasis put on collections to have a well-defined common themes, by making it bold. The word "random" in the examples has been replaced by "n number of clips", because a collection are not random files put into a pack, but file collected together because they have the same well defined theme. In the same sense "category" has been replaced by "theme" (in reference to well-defined common theme). The word category could mislead to be understood as one of GayTorrent.ru's categories, which are to large to make up for a well-defined common theme. All this is to better convey the idea of collection, in opposite to packs.
Besides the semantics to replace "any" by "all", the requirement of "including their formats and file sizes" has been removed. Of course still the easiest way to generate the file list is to copy/paste the torrent's file list and eliminate the not important files,which will then include format and size. This is to accommodate for those members who take the care to list all the titles with a short description of their content. It would be wrong to "force" them to add in addition a copy of the file list to meet the rules. The sense of listing the files or titles is to make them searchable with our search.
10. Besides minor spelling changes, "DVD-R" has been replaced by "DVD Video" (except for the category name), because DVD-R is a media and not a digital file container format and structure. "Categories" is now plural because there are now two catgories: "DVD-R" and "DVD-R Non-Porn".
11. The first paragraph simply tries to define that the information shall "right" to the content shared, rather than "wrong". This addresses many issues seen with uploaded torrent presentations, such as title, description, pictures or shared not matching each other, wrong category etc … Then follow more specific requirements.
The one picture was basically already imposed by the upload form and QTM, but nevertheless frequently torrents are uploaded not having a picture. It is to remarked that this is something easy to correct and GayTorrent.ru's community can help with missing pictures by adding them, e.g. taking screenshots after download. If pictures are wrong, it is helpful to add correct pictures and then report the wrong. Without added right, all staff can do is to remove the wrong or been left in doubt if the report is correct ...
The good quality is rather vague, perhaps something to drop from the final version. A first idea is that landscape pictures should have at least a width of 300 pixel, or if lower the definition of the video, and portrait pictures of 180 pixel. Of course they should not be up-scaled from smaller pictures, which makes them unsharp.
GayTorrent.ru's community members are from all over the world. It is not self going which languages a movie got and if there are subtitles. Modern digital file container formats such as .mp4 and .mkv can include multiple language tracks and subtitles. It is important to the members to be able to know if they will be able to understand the movies dialogues before having downloaded the movie.
The restriction to file names has been removed, but attention, if no title is entered, it will be taken from the file/folder name, which than must not have such mentions. The "New" and "Latest" mentions are added. These become obsolete / wrong already shortly after the upload. Indicating the release date will remain correct over the time.
Our Upload Guide gives rather detailed Guidelines of kind of information which is desired in a torrent presentation. Again, if a torrent got rather brief information, the community can help with missing information, a review or a link in a comment to the torrent. The uploader has already done the most important thing: He shares culture and knowledge for free. Rather tah complaining, the community should strive to make it better. Together GayTorrent.ru will become bigger, better, boner!
12. Simplified sentences and reference to the FAQ added.
Here as reference the current Uploading Rules
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Do not submit BANNED material. A list of all currently banned material is located here. If you submit banned material you will receive a warning (
) that temporarily prevents downloading for a specified period of time. Repeat infringers will be banned. -
DUPLICATE files are not allowed and will be removed. You are expected to run a search for duplicates prior to submitting a torrent. Duplicates may be accepted when part of a themed collection. A file is considered a duplicate if an existing torrent has the same format and similar size (<10% difference) and has at least one seeder.
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The MINIMUM SIZE for a torrent submission is 50 MB. Exceptions include: Members, Images, Books & Magazines, Comic & Yaoï, Anime Games and Media/Torrent Programs categories and Subtitles only. -
If you are unable to seed a new upload, don't submit it until you can. If you are unable to continuously seed, please state so in the comment section of your upload to inform other users of the delay. You MUST CONTINUE SEEDING YOUR TORRENT until at least three or four other members have completely downloaded the file and can continue seeding for you. If you do not seed your upload within 3 days, it will be deleted and need to be resubmitted.
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Upload only ONE NEW TORRENT AT A TIME in order to initially seed your upload as fast as possible. If multiple torrents are uploaded, they MUST be completed within 24 hours.
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All non-porn material must have LGBTQ THEMED CONTENT (Plot / Characters) or involve VOYEURISM of the ADULT MALE PHYSIQUE . Gay-interest, an openly gay actor or minor gay characters are insufficient to meet this requirement. Do NOT upload any themed movies that are released/produced by mainstream cinema / TV studios (see banned list). Examples of voyeuristic material include bodybuilding, wrestling and underwear/swimwear.
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Uploading Music, Music Videos, Mainstream TV Broadcasts, Mainstream Movies, Video Games and Commercial Applications are prohibited.
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Do not upload VIDEO packed in achieves (zip, rar, …), password protected files, or material that needs to acquire a license for playing
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A COLLECTION is a group of files that have a well-defined common theme.
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The Title must specify the theme and the degree of completeness (all videos from 2010-2011; full site rip or complete as of a specific month/year; videos from a studio or featuring an actor; numerical series 100-200, 301-499; alphabetical listings of A-C, D-F; random clips of a particular porn category; etc).
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The description must contain a list of any video files or titles including their formats and file sizes, by at least copy/paste the torrent’s file list. Please list video files and titles available through other existing torrents with links to their descriptions.
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A collection may overlap with another collection if it has a different central theme. For example, a collection may include a studio series from #201 to #239; with some duplicate files found in a collection about a specific actor; or a resubmission of a site rip after 3 months in order to keep it updated.
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We only allow exact copies of DVD-Rs in Image file (.iso, .img) or DVD folder structure (.vob) format so the downloader can keep it in it's original format or convert it to another file type with little quality loss.
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Do NOT upload other file formats (avi, wmv, mpeg, mp4, etc) which were converted into DVD-R.
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All DVD-R uploads must be put in the DVD-R category regardless of it's content.
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If you knowingly post a DVD that has been shrunk {ie from dvd9 to dvd5 or Dual Layer to standard dvd} then you should make a note of that in the description box.
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Descriptions in the title or file name such as "Hot!", "Must See!" or "Best Ever!" are unacceptable. The comment area is the only appropriate place to give your personal opinion of the content or otherwise make personal requests. Do not plead for bonus seed points in the description area.
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Most, if not all questions regarding these and any other requirements may be answered by reading our Upload-Guide. If you have further questions, submit it to a Moderator at the Helpdesk
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Good job
When these changes will become in force? -
There is nothing really new. The changes rather put in form the current practice to serve as the reference. Therefore you can consider them already as in force for moderation work.
Rules 3. and 11. are the result of long internal discussions about the formulation and the coverage. They should be seen as the minimal mandatory requirements. It is clear that many would like to have the mandatory requirements going beyond these still quite general ones.
Unless there are major concerns about the wording and meaning, these changes will be implemented the upcoming weekend and after, step by step. Sorry the editor is slow.
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Popper, you've done a good job, especially simplifying some of the wording. Thank you
I don't know how the final version will look so my only quibble just now is that yellow wording on a grey background is not good for aging eyes
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The wording is the result of an intensive team work, so I thank you in the name of the team for these nice words. It is supposed the "final" version. This topic, however, gives a chance to the community to add it's views and concerns, if any.
The background on the Rules page is darker and the contrast with the yellow used on bold links better than here in the forum with the lighter grey background. More like:
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Yup, that is much more readable :clap2:
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One more suggestion, pictures presenting the upload need to be of a minimum size (I hate thumbnails - you can't see what you are downloading). I'd suggest 600x800 as a minimum size, and about 1600x2000 as a maximum (really big pix just go off screen when you hit the full screen button).
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600x800 is a too high definition for many type of content. It is even above standard NTSC definition (480x640, if square pixel, respectively 360x640/400x720 if cropped from a letterboxed source with 16:9 active content, not to speak about 2.40:1 format movies).
As well vintage content from tape is often only available from transfers to VCD (320x240) and grabs from tube sites offer often only low definition quality downloads …
That is the reason for the "... pictures should have at least a width of 300 pixel, or if lower the definition of the video, ..." in the explanations to the rules, taking in account 5% overscanning at the analogue TV times. -
:cheers: OMG, this is quite lovely, and deserves registration with the Library Of Congress!!!! :cheers:
Amazing team effort!!!!
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it looks good, with regards to the "good quality" pictures would it be reasonable and less vague to ask for "a picture of a quality which is representative of the content of the torrent"
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I hope this isn't getting too off-topic but in my experience if you use Media Player Classic to make thumbnails 6 across x 6 down at about 1500 pixels wide it gives a good size picture on this site
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it might seem like a lot of rules but is not, they actually let us users to continue enjoying the site and the staff to have less job
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Thanks for all the Upload clarifications. I also like the plan for a better standard of thumbnails.
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it looks good, with regards to the "good quality" pictures would it be reasonable and less vague to ask for "a picture of a quality which is representative of the content of the torrent"
That is the case with the proposed version, because
"11. Any information, e.g. the title, categories, pictures and description must correctly represent the content of the files shared with the torrent and avoid misleading members about the content. …
I hope this isn't getting too off-topic but in my experience if you use Media Player Classic to make thumbnails 6 across x 6 down at about 1500 pixels wide it gives a good size picture on this site
It is a little off topic, but that depends partly on the definition in pixel of the screen used by the viewer. The site's picture resizing was dropped (resizing to 1024x768 pixel, basically) because of the difficulties to make it work correctly with very longish pictures. Since then, pictures are kept in their original size. If they are larger than the viewers screen, there are difficulties to view them correctly now.
Most common desktop screens have today 1080x1920, but older LCD screens 17" and 19" had 1280x1024 and 15" 1024x768. I am not very familiar with smartphone screens. I think 4x9 with 1000 pixel width is better than 6x6 with 1500 pixel width, just saying …
… I also like the plan for a better standard of thumbnails.
Can you elaborate that a little more?
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Having read the new text, I'm not sure if it changes anything with regard to posting clips singly (or in small groups) that have been included in previous "collections" or torrents of complete sets (i.e. all parts of a scene released bit by bit e.g. on a weekly basis, a common practice with subscription sites).
Up to now, such new posts have not been considered duplicates because the earlier post "didn't count" even when it comprised no more than one complete set of several parts, and the new post(s) contained single part(s) or a sub-set of the full set (in the same format).
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There is indeed no change regarding duplicate interpretation / handling in the upcoming version.
The changes made to the Collection paragraph have as only intention to better transport the idea of what a collection is. It are files collected thoroughly together, because they have something well-defined in common. It are not random files put together, or files which have just a whole category in common. Therefore the words "random" and "category" have been eliminated in the list of examples.
The interpretation of the rule " 2. … Duplicates may be accepted when part of a themed collection. ..." is done permissive in both ways, in and out of a collection.
Understand a collection as a service to download all files at once, instead of the need to search them together from different single files and collections. They can be collected together by different themes and therefore overlap.
If a member likes to get only a single file or a set out of a larger collection, downloading from the collection is not the best idea:
- First, many don't know how to select only to download some selected file of a multiple file torrent and will get therefore a much larger download than what they like to get or worse stay away from the download.
- Secondly, if they know, because they haven't got all files, the tracker can't count them as seeder and will continue to count that torrent (of course not the upload) as downloading peer. The number of concurrent downloading torrents is limited (see the Downloading Rules) and those seeding of incomplete torrents can quickly occupy all slots and block further downloads for "bad ratio" even if the member got the maximal 15 because of a good share ratio.
You comment made me think to a rule (?) that single video torrents already available in collections need to indicate a link to that collection.
There is a recent related topic regarding duplicates > https://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=24020.0
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Okay, thanks for the explanation and the link.
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You sound disapointed. Perhaps you could explain why you'd be happy that would change?
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Oops, I didn't mean to sound disappointed. But you're right, I would have preferred a change in the policy. My problem with clips appearing on their own, sometimes just a week or two after they were posted as part of a full set of parts (or a smallish collection), is two-fold: It feels like a rip-off of the original poster (rightly or, quite possibly, wrongly so, if the new poster has his own source), and more importantly, to me these torrents are unnecessary clutter. I mean, why do we have a no-duplicates policy in the first place? I assume that it is exactly for those two reasons, i.e. to "protect" the original poster of a file, and to avoid torrents that provide nothing new reducing the overall attractiveness of the range of torrents on offer here. But I may well miss other aspects, as I did with the one you made about less experienced users having trouble selecting individual files from a torrent, and I also generally think that generous interpretations of rules are preferable, so my reply wasn't intended as an implied criticism.
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The changes are gone live :love:
