Completed torrent list
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There are two torrents that I downloaded via the freeleech special, both are from WAN(Cologne Marathon and Hot Shots 1avi) and neither one show up in my completed torrent list. Furthermore, I uploaded two torrents, one came over to my completed list but not the other on(Staxus: Bottomed Out). Is there a tech person that can assist me with this hiccup please?
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There are different possibilities which could cause that. Basically all get down to the tracker not receiving a "have completed download" from your torrent client programme:
- Not having selected to download all files of a torrent. This seems to be the reason on WAN Cologne Marathon
- Having jumped on a torrent using the reseed procedure with data files acquired from a different source*
- Having uploaded an own torrent properly*
- Having the torrent client programme not being connectible (our sites sees your µTorrent as not connectible)
- = if reseed and uploading a torrent is done properly, the download never starts and therefore is never completed. The torrent client will find the files immediately and check them to be available without going to download, and start seeding immediately. That creates no "have completed download" message being send to the tracker. However if it is done a way that first the torrent client doesn't find the files and started download, then is directed to the files and a re-check done, the torrent client programme will send a "have completed download" message to the tracker.
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Well said Popper. Can you repeat that in English please?(joking only). Now what? I know I didn't want the .jpg files on one of the WAN's. It's pretty much a loss then?
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It is not a loss. You got what you've wanted
You can share that part back and the upload you'll do is counted by the tracker as upload. Only the tracker will never receive the signal that you've completed the download of all files. Therefore it will count you always into the leeches, because only a peer who got all files can be a seeder. That as well means the torrent will not show up in your completed download list. That can become an obstacle if you want to reload and restart seeding it, having no download rights. Else it doesn't matter much.
That to the torrent you have selected not to get all files.
The part regarding the star "*" remark, is about the process you use to get an own torrent seed or start reseeding it, by jumping on. If it is done "right", you'll never start any download attempt and therefore no have completed download signal will be sent to the tracker, which results in no entry in the completed download list. That is normal and fully correct.
So the correct upload process is:
1/ You upload the .torrent file
2/ You redownload the small .torrent file with your secrete passkey inserted
3/ You add it to your torrent client programme and direct the "download" to the data files(s) you've got already
4/ The torrent client will check the data and if they match, start seeding immediately (no download, no download completed signal sent to the tracker, therefore no entry to the completed downloads list)Of course in above right process, that torrent will be listed in your uploaded torrent list.
Reseeding is the same process, starting at step 2/ and as you haven't uploaded the .torrent file, no entry will be made to your torrent lists, except it will appear in seeding torrents when you seed it.
In opposite to above, here an example for a process which will create a entry in your completed downloads list, when uploading a torrent, which is the "wrong" way, though it works:
1/ You upload the .torrent file
2/ You redownload the small .torrent file with your secrete passkey inserted
3/ You add it to your torrent client programme and don't direct to the data files you've got already
4/ The torrent client programme will start to try to download the data files (won't work)
5/ You stop the download and direct the client to the data files you've got
6/ The torrent client will check the data and if they match, start seeding and sends a have completed signal to the tracker, which creates the completed download entry to the Profile torrent list -
You're right, I got what I wanted in terms of files but not getting to cast my vote in the category vote is a loss. What is whole leeching business anyway? Are there users coming in from other places taking the torrents, i.e., not from this site? Could you elaborate on the process a little bit please? Thank you for your great explanations as well regarding the completed torrent questions.
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You're right, I got what I wanted in terms of files but not getting to cast my vote in the category vote is a loss. …
Personally I download the small files like pictures, covers and descriptions on multiple file torrents, too. At the end, the download size doesn't matter, it is just a question of time to share back and usually those file are a low percentage to the total size.
Not having all files has in addition the inconvenience to count the torrent as downloading while seed by the tracker and if one has too many of such, downloads will be blocked by our tracker, because we got limits there (too).
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@rezurrected:… What is whole leeching business anyway? Are there users coming in from other places taking the torrents, i.e., not from this site? Could you elaborate on the process a little bit please? ...
This goes a little off topic and might be worth it's own discussion., but anyway, some words to it.
Bit torrent is a Peer to Peer (P2P) file sharing protocol. The emphasis here is on sharing. Not only a file is shared, but as well the upload bandwidth of all the peers, to make downloads fast and the storage space. The upload and downloads are directly between peers (users / members), not from a central download or streaming server.
Everyone participating will at some point download data files (movies typically here), which is called leeching and a peer doing that is called leecher or leeches. Someone can be at the same time downloading (leeching) and uploading (seeding) data of a torrent's files. That is what typically happens on new torrents and makes the downloads via torrents so fast. Someone who got a new part, is distributing it to the others.
Downloading it self isn't a bad thing, it is part of the sharing process.Unfortunately some people are happy to download files, but once they got it, don't care to share back and keep the files available for others. It takes storage space and requires to run the computer and torrent client for long times. Peers with such behaviour are called leecher or leeches in the derogative meaning of that words.
We therefore have here a ratio system enforced, which requires members to keep files and share them back. Basically members who don't share enough, will find their download suspended until they shared back enough.
New members who have experience with ratio trackers will know how to keep ratio and which files to prefer to built it up and which rather not to take at start.
Our ratio system is designed in a way that new members not knowing torrents at all or only from public trackers like The Pirate Bay (just to name the most (in)famous) will get early a low ratio warning. That is meant to make them aware of our ratio requirement system, read about it and what to do to keep ratio. At that early stage, requirement 0.200 with low download amount, it is quite easy to correct the share ratio.
There is as well a special kind of experienced torrenters, which just create an account, download what they can, without sharing back, until the system blocks them (but it can't stop running downloads). Then dumps the account, to later open a new. We saw new members downloading more that 100 GB in the first 3 days until the end of their grace time …
One aspect of Rationator 3.0 introduced after we went open signup is to try to make that behaviour less attractive. At first the number of downloads of torrent files is highly limited, so not many torrents can be downloaded in the first 3 days or week. Of course they can still get some of the mega collections ...
Some words to the end:
Leeching and seeding goes in pair. What one user leeches others upload. It can't be dissociated. So with any downloads, you help other members improving their share ratio.
A share ratio around 1.000 is good. Unbalanced in either direction should be tried to be avoided. However uploader of own new torrents will likely have a share ratio above 1.000 unavoidable, except stopping to upload new torrents, what nobody here hopefully wants.
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Excellent explanation!! Thank you very much for taking the time to explain the answer to my question in such great detail!!
