Torrents will not seed once downloaded

Popper

Can you change the protocol encryption setting and see what it gives?

Are you using a proxy service?

daneg

@Uwe:

Can you change the protocol encryption setting and see what it gives?

Are you using a proxy service?

I just had encryption off, turning it on is giving the same problem. I'll see a peer pop up and then instantly go away.

For the last few hours, but I wasn't earlier. I am having the same problem either way.

I'll try finding something I have that isn't being seeded and see if I can get it to seed. If I can't get that to work I'll just give up, I am seeding to someone else right now but I'm having no luck here.

Popper

Could you STOP (not remove) all torrents from other tracker and run like that for an hour to see if your µTorrent then will start seeding on torrents from here, please?

daneg

I have uploaded a little now. I left it running for hours and came back to see I uploaded 47 MB on the torrent that shows 0 peers now, but the torrent that currently shows 14 peers has still uploaded 0 MB.

daneg

I am seeding my own file now. It is working fine. Still no idea what happened with the other torrent, but I am not too worried.

Bonk

@Uwe:

That can be tested in µTorrent > Setup Guide … > select the "Network" test only and run the test. The result should be a green check sign, not orange. Please tell us the result.

Green. Do I have to repeat myself? Here:

You're unable to configure your tracker correctly.

Upload works on gay-torrents.org
Upload works on ourgtn.org
Upload works on rarbg.com
Upload works on publicbt.com

Popper

Our tracker delivers correctly the peer information. Uploading and downloading is done directly between the peers' torrent client programmes and not via the tracker. Therefore it has nothing to do with the tracker, as long as the tracker delivers the peers IPs to the torrent clients.

You can not compare the ease of upload on public trackers like rarbg.com and publicbt.com or trackers without minimum ratio like ourgtn.org or with low minimum ratio requirements like gay-torrents.org with our tracker. We got much more seeder per leecher than those.

Bonk

@Uwe:

You can not compare the ease of upload on public trackers like rarbg.com and publicbt.com or trackers without minimum ratio like ourgtn.org or with low minimum ratio requirements like gay-torrents.org with our tracker. We got much more seeder per leecher than those.

I very well can. If you say your tracker has nothing to with the upload, why does it work on others but not yours? Blaming the others, that it's because of the minimum ratio, seems like a lame excuse to me again.

Even if gay-torrents.org has a low ratio requirement, my ratio there is rather high because seeding there works. It's not because of "more seeder per leecher" (LOLWUT?).

I'm so tired of arguing with you. I can fiddle around with firewall settings, my router, any torrent client and I can properly upload/seed on any other tracker, in the end the problem with GTru doesn't lie on my side.

Speedmaster8

@Bonk:

@Uwe:

You can not compare the ease of upload on public trackers like rarbg.com and publicbt.com or trackers without minimum ratio like ourgtn.org or with low minimum ratio requirements like gay-torrents.org with our tracker. We got much more seeder per leecher than those.

I very well can. If you say your tracker has nothing to with the upload, why does it work on others but not yours? Blaming the others, that it's because of the minimum ratio, seems like a lame excuse to me again.

Even if gay-torrents.org has a low ratio requirement, my ratio there is rather high because seeding there works. It's not because of "more seeder per leecher" (LOLWUT?).

I'm so tired of arguing with you. I can fiddle around with firewall settings, my router, any torrent client and I can properly upload/seed on any other tracker, in the end the problem with GTru doesn't lie on my side.

What Uwe is pointing out, is the fact that it is quite more difficult to equal your ratio on GTRU because we do have a lot more users who care about sharing. Therefore it is a fact, that we do have a lot more users who really SHARE the files, instead of having a "hit-and-run" - mentality. While you certainly upload much more on open trackers, or trackers with a low ratio requirement, you have to deal with more uploaders here on GTRU. If you would like to get a decent proof, you might upload an own file on each tracker and compare this after a week or two.

Sometimes it might help, if you name one or two of your seeding torrents ( maybe per private message? ) so that a staff member might get a better view of your problem, or to present some other options to solve you problem. I don't think that complaints will help you very much, but if that makes you feel better, please continue.

farkme

@Bonk:

@Uwe:

You can not compare the ease of upload on public trackers like rarbg.com and publicbt.com or trackers without minimum ratio like ourgtn.org or with low minimum ratio requirements like gay-torrents.org with our tracker. We got much more seeder per leecher than those.

I very well can. If you say your tracker has nothing to with the upload, why does it work on others but not yours? Blaming the others, that it's because of the minimum ratio, seems like a lame excuse to me again.

Even if gay-torrents.org has a low ratio requirement, my ratio there is rather high because seeding there works. It's not because of "more seeder per leecher" (LOLWUT?).

I'm so tired of arguing with you. I can fiddle around with firewall settings, my router, any torrent client and I can properly upload/seed on any other tracker, in the end the problem with GTru doesn't lie on my side.

Your ratio is 0.52 - I would say that you are able to seed perfectly well.

Popper

@Bonk:

… I very well can. ...

Right, you can. However the only conclusion will be that seeding there is easier … for the reasons I've tried to explain and will try again in longer ways in this post.

@Bonk:

… I'm so tired of arguing with you. I can fiddle around with firewall settings, my router, any torrent client and I can properly upload/seed on any other tracker, in the end the problem with GTru doesn't lie on my side.

There is visibly nothing wrong with your settings for the part you control. You get the peer information from the tracker and if I understand right, the "Network" test of µTorrent has a green check mark result (not only orange).

@Bonk:

… If you say your tracker has nothing to with the upload, why does it work on others but not yours? Blaming the others, that it's because of the minimum ratio, seems like a lame excuse to me again. ...

Again, for the reasons I've tried to explain and will try again in longer ways in this post.

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You have to distinguish between 2 things:

1/ The technical points:

1a) The tracker configuration: The tracker is working well, you get the peer information from it, means the number of seeder, leecher and their IPs to connect to them. The tracker is adding up the upload and download statistics received from your torrent client. Please stop to accuse us to have the tracker not well configured!

1b) The settings in your torrent client, firewalls, modem/router port forwarding: If your "Network" test is giving the above mentioned green check result, you've the configuration correct.

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2/ The site rules and the members dynamic resulting out of it:

This is the what I've tried to point out and explains why upload data here is more difficult than on other trackers to which you compare.

2a) The seeder to leecher ratio. The higher it is, the less each seeder can upload to the leecher. Gay-Torrents.org got 20.9 seeder per leecher, to my memory Gay-Torrents.net has a seeder to leecher ratio of about 23, we got a ratio of 48.76 seeder per leecher. That means uploading here is more than twice as difficult than on these two sites.

2b) The number of new torrents per period. The original torrent uploader has no download, that means the leecher will always remain short of that original uploader upload portion. The more new torrents and the less members, the bigger the effect. Some numbers:

| Tracker | New Last Week | Members | Members/New |
| GayTorrent.ru | 558 | 60941 | 109 |
| Gay-Torrents.org | 379 | 94237 | 248 |
| Gay-Privacy.com | 195 | n/a | n/a |
| Gay-Torrents.net | 164 | 254570 | 1552 |
| OurGTN.org | 104 | 18099 | 174 |

2c) The ratio of dead torrents, which if reseed will generate full amount of upload once someone starts downloading:

| Tracker | Torrents | Dead | % of Dead |
| Gay-Torrents.net | 30565 | 6122 | 20 |
| GayTorrent.ru | 62937 | 15098 | 23 |
| Gay-Torrents.org | 37221 | 10563 | 28 |
| OurGTN.org | 11832 | 6294 | 53 |
| Gay-Privacy.com | 2555 | 1451 | 56 |

2d) The user base, the more members, the more potential downloads. Free inscription means more user turnover (new members, will download old torrents, thus increasing the share ratio of older members seeding)

2e) The dynamics of a torrent swarm, common to all tracker:

New torrents are always those which are most downloaded. However, once the original uploader's initial seeding phase is over, the torrent swarm will turn over from leecher to mostly seeder. If a new torrent swarm is joint lately, close to that turning point, no upload can be expected.

Then, after there is a long period with many seeds, but only occasional downloader. That generates only little upload for any of the seeds. Only when a torrent gets close to it's dead, with only a few seeds left it's occasional downloads will generate good upload for the (few) seeder left.

That is why I recommend to download only torrents which are liked, so that one keeps the file(s) for a long period, means over years. It isn't a sure approach to count on new torrents. One can't know most of the time to be early enough.

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Of course, you it is arguable if the set of GayTorrent.ru's rules is good, can be improved (sure it can) and if the resulting members behaviour is the desired. There are indicators which say that they are not that bad:

The number of alive torrents
The number of new uploads

This is a result of the high minimum share ratio requirements. They put the pressure to keep seeding downloaded torrents and to upload own new torrents.

The drawback of that is the rather difficult start to new members to built a good share ratio (anything around 1.000 is good), which anyway will go yo-yo at the beginning. However, there are the Seed Bonus Points and since recently the Freeleech torrents, which can help any member really willing out of a bad share ratio.

Another drawback of the higher share ratio requirements is that multiple tracker members will prefer downloading torrents on tracker without share ratio requirements (Gay-Torrents.net, OurGTN.org) or with lower requirements (Gay-Torrents.org). There I can only remind that each download will generate upload at the seeder, which will increase it's ratio and therefore will be able to download and so on ...

With above I don't want to say that a tracker is better than another. All these tracker have a different approach and history. For example:

If you look for your daily entertainment without hustle, Gay-Torrents.net is certainly a place to go
OurGTN.org got a very friendly forum and a small but close community of original torrent releasers, you'll find some precious items there. It got a large mature section, too. Lastly there is no minimum share ratio.
Gay-Privacy is quite new. That gives the opportunity to take profit from being an early member, by jumping seeding on the numerous dead torrents, upload own torrents etc ... all what allows to reach a privileged member status.
Finally there are Gay-Torrents.org and GayTorrent.ru, with quite a similar approach. I think especially GayTorrent.ru is a "must" for all serious collectors. The rules are made for that.

All this said, there is something you can improve in your own seeding behaviour. While you've downloaded many torrent's files, out of which a lot got only 1 seed, you seed only 2 torrents with many other seeds. These 2 torrents are multiple file torrents, where the leecher are likely hidden seeder, which don't have all files ; therefore no upload can be expected on these two.
You'll be better of restarting seeding the old torrents with only 1 other seed or even better, no other seed.

phucka

Hey, I've downloaded 4 files and none of them are seeding. I have 1 day to seed otherwise I'll be banned.. The torrents are still open in Transmission and I'm not deleting them straight after, so please could you revoke the warning so I can figure this out? I've just joined this site and it would be a pity to be banned.

Popper

You might want to try different settings for "Protocol" encryption …

Another possibility is that your connections are all already in use by other downloading and seeding torrents. You could run the "Bandwidth" test and select a proposed setting according to it's result.