Facebook removes photo of two men kissing
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What is this world coming to? Are people seriously that intolerant of human rights?
Source: hxxp://chicago.gopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/17957529/103
Sun. April 17, 2011 11:39:11 PM CDT
Britain — A blogger is asking gay supporters to post an innocuous photo of two men kissing on their Facebook pages after Facebook removed the same photo from his own page.
Niall O'Conghaile, a blogger on DangerousMinds.net, posted the photo along with an article about a Facebook-driven protest against a British pub that had kicked out two men who were kissing.
He said that the next day, the photo was gone, and an email was waiting for him:
Hello,
Content that you shared on Facebook has been removed because it violated Facebook's Statement of Rights and Responsibilities. Shares that contain nudity, or any kind of graphic or sexually suggestive content, are not permitted on Facebook.
This message serves as a warning. Additional violations may result in the termination of your account. Please read the Statement of Rights and Responsibilities carefully and refrain from posting abusive material in the future. Thanks in advance for your understanding and cooperation.
The Facebook Team
A continuation from a second sourced article:
Source: hxxp://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/protesters_to_stage_gay_kiss-in_in_london_pub_tonight/Protesters to stage gay ‘kiss-in’ in London pub tonight
Jonathan Williams, 26, and Jamie Bull, 23, were on a first date in the [John Snow] pub on Wednesday night when a woman claiming to be the landlady allegedly ordered them to leave.
The couple say they were kicked out for quietly kissing in a corner and witnesses backed up their claims. Mr Williams vented his frustration on Twitter and supporters quickly began to organise a protest.
More than 400 people have pledged to join tonight’s demonstration, while 600 say they will attend a similar protest at the pub next Wednesday,
Actually, the Facebook event page now has over 750 people attending.
Update: Apparently the John Snow pub has closed its doors and is not letting any more customers in.Update: The John Snow is still closed, but after nearly reaching 1,000 attendees on Facebook the event has made the BBC national news.
UPDATE: Written by Richard Metzger 04/16/11 Hey Facebook: What’s SO wrong about a pic of two men kissing?
This is perplexing. And annoying. And infuriating.
I woke up this morning to an email from Facebook with the subject “Facebook Warning”:
Hello,
Content that you shared on Facebook has been removed because it violated Facebook’s Statement of Rights and Responsibilities. Shares that contain nudity, or any kind of graphic or sexually suggestive content, are not permitted on Facebook.
This message serves as a warning. Additional violations may result in the termination of your account. Please read the Statement of Rights and Responsibilities carefully and refrain from posting abusive material in the future. Thanks in advance for your understanding and cooperation.
The Facebook Team
Ah…yeah… it seems that the sight of two fully-clothed men kissing was too much for Facebook, or too much for some closet-case asshole (Hi Jerry! Remind me why you and I are “friends” again? I sure didn’t ask to be yours, pal…) who complained about it. The photo appeared here on Dangerous Minds in the context of Niall’s post about the “kiss in” demonstration that was cooked up, ironically ON FACEBOOK ITSELF, in London to protest against the rude treatment two gay patrons experienced at a pub called The John Snow. The two men, Jonathan Williams, 26, and Jamie Bull, 23 were sitting in a corner kissing when the owner asked them to leave. Over 750 people signed up for the protest.
Oh, WAIT A MINUTE, I went to check on the Facebook page that organized The John Snow pub protest… and it’s gone, too.
WTF, FB?
I’ve written to Facebook asking them why this content was removed, but have at this point received no reply. I’ll update this post when I do. In the meantime, why not share this photo on FB as much as you can? I’m hoping they’ll restore the post as it was so everyone can pile on the jerk who wrote all the homophobic stuff on my FB wall. I think that’s the best outcome here, Jerry getting a taste of his own medicine…
In any case, the protest went off last night against The John Snow pub, with protesters chanting “We’re here, we’re queer and we won’t buy your beer.” You can see the BBC News report at hxxp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13103599 .
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Do they remove heteros kissing as well? That should be tested. As long as they
treat that as a violation of the ToS as well. Also, how high are the privacy settings
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And you guys keep telling me I'm overly pessimistic about bigotry.
A gay couple kicked out of a pub in Soho area of London for a simple peck on the lips.
A group of gay Labour party supporters were refused service at a pub, for nothing other than being gay.
So that's 3 homophobic things in 2 weeks, that I have read about. How many more don't we know about?!
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Facebook is full of pics of hetero people kissing. Facebook clearly showed it's "values". I am a little confused, like facebook has 500 million users, there has to be a large number of gay people in that number, nobody ever posted a pic of two guys kissing? If they did they either didn't get reported or got to another moderator or what. I wonder how clear are the rules for removing reported posts.
I myself just yesterday saw reactions to 2 posts in some other page. One about a hurt dog and another gay related. From the comments in my country: a dog is above a gay man (people ain't that homophobic about lesbians, since that is hot for many men). Like 90 percent of comments about gays were "they should all die" or "lets go and kill them". these comments were all made through facebook. I wonder if I reported this, would they be removed… Kinda doubt it. There would be too much work for facebook here
I'm certainly not optimistic about my country. I plan to move this year so lets hope for the best
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I often wonder about Facebook's policies. They'll take down a picture like this, yet it takes them FOREVER to get around to taking down a hate group about me. It's interesting how their priorities really seem to work.
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I really don't understand this note:
Shares that contain nudity, or any kind of graphic or sexually suggestive content, are not permitted on Facebook.
It was only two guys kissing, as well as you can see on Facebook one hetero couple kissing.
There is no sexually content: you don't see them naked and/or fucking!
Worst is when you seen on Facebook groups who are supporting Hitler pics, killers, and such.
Stupid people :afr:
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What really is frustrating about the people who complain about such pictures is that
they must be looking for them in the first place because when I go onto facebook,
I get my homepage with my friends, and their posts, If I see something on someone
else's page, I generally ignore it. Not out of a sense of apathy but out of a sense of
I don't know why it's there, and I don't want to take something out of context.
Maybe the picture of Hitler was there to prove some political point, or whatever
if the person has friends on there, that's his business.If facebook is policing accounts for inappropriateness, then they should give the person
prior warning and let them delete it before they do. After 10 days with no response, then
facebook can delete.Even Willy Wonka gave Charlie better reasons as to why he didn't win at the end.
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I've never understood Facebook… They'll be so quick to take down a picture as innocent as that by taking it down within 24 hours, yet a hate group targeted against me including such commentary as "That dirty disease infested pig should die" still have yet to come down from Facebook and I've been complaining with both friends and my lawyers for well over a month now. The worst part is that Facebook has been presented with a notice stating that there's a publication ban on the matter, yet they don't seem to care.
That in and of itself just goes to show where Facebook's priorities really are. They don't care about "getting things right", but rather only seem to care about what they want to. It's funny how they'll be the first to take down something for being gay, yet when it comes to hate crimes and anti-HIV bashes, they'll just dismiss it like it's nothing. What is this world coming to?
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Maybe the picture of Hitler was there to prove some political point, or whatever
if the person has friends on there, that's his business.Of course, but you do know that Hitler's pic/s remind people holocaust, shoah, political hate and such.
If you, Facebook, says that your duty is to watch EVERY pic that can be outrageous, worse and worst, so you should close groups that make people say "Hail to racism and hate!".
Until now it seems that on Facebook we're having two different way of acting and that's not good
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@ultimate:
Maybe the picture of Hitler was there to prove some political point, or whatever
if the person has friends on there, that's his business.Of course, but you do know that Hitler's pic/s remind people holocaust, shoah, political hate and such.
If you, Facebook, says that your duty is to watch EVERY pic that can be outrageous, worse and worst, so you should close groups that make people say "Hail to racism and hate!".
Until now it seems that on Facebook we're having two different way of acting and that's not good
Grazie, ultimate (for having a hot avatar) and proving a point. The mere mention of Hitler has an effect not only his image. And someone with the name "Zuckerberg" is he of German/Jewish decent? (well certainly, according to this: [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg]) You'd think he'd be more interested in having such negative images removed before being concerned with two men kissing!
I just don't understand people, and I think I've lost where I was going with my point, but anyway …
I'll get back to you, I just need some air. LOL -
Facebook Apologizes For Censoring Gay Kiss Photo
Two men kissing: too risque for Facebook?
The social network recently removed a picture of a gay kiss for allegedly violating its terms of use, which state, "You will not post content that: is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence."
The photo in question (see it here) accompanied a Facebook page calling for a "kiss-in" protest for an incident at a pub, where a gay couple was ousted for kissing (the landlady deemed the act "obscene").
Facebook has since re-instated the page, and apologized for the error in a statement.
"The photo in question does not violate our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities and was removed in error," the statement read.
The removed picture, a promo pic from the soap opera Eastenders, contained no nudity or graphic sexuality, but the event has sparked outrage from users wondering why a photo of two fully clothed men engaging in a kiss would be flagged. Already, Facebook pages have been set up where users have flooded the feed with more pictures of same-sex kisses. A gay kiss-in to protest the act has also been organized.
Especially curious is the fact that Facebook does not remove every picture flagged as inappropriate. According to them, a "Facebook administrator looks into each report thoroughly in order to decide the appropriate course of action. If no violation of our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities has occurred, then no action will be taken," suggesting that a person, not a program, may have removed the picture.
"Facebook has said that it was a mistake to remove the picture," reads a post from the event protesting the removal. "Mistake or malicious, it shouldn't have happened. Many people have been affected."
Facebook also ran into trouble when they recently removed a photo of the 1866 painting "The Origin of the World" by Gustave Courbet, which is a representation of female genitalia, and deleted the user's account. The man is now suing the site for causing him to miss messages on the eve of his birthday. Facebook previously removed the same painting, and deactivated the accounts, of two other users: a Danish artist whose profile was reinstated on the condition that he post no more nudes, and a French writer who changed his profile picture to the painting in support.
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a "Mistake"? :lolp: That's too funny!
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Facebook has since re-instated the page, and apologized for the error in a statement.
"The photo in question does not violate our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities and was removed in error," the statement read.
Wow, now they recognize the mistake after lots of trouble had worldwide?
Ahahahahaha, on Facebook work a bunch of idi*ts…
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I don't think it was a "mistake".
I think they had a rule to remove any gay related stuff that got reported. Usually it would work because most people don't have their own blog to get the news out. They only changed their minds because of all the bad publicity they received.
You also have to consider that it's illegal to discriminate in the EU, like this. So Facebook could have received a huge fine for this or been banned in the EU or possibly both.
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Too bad that didn't happen; I would have added that as another GREAT reason to move to the EU
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hello form barbados this one really has me i just never get it
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avalonmoore,
i don't understand what you said. but hello right back!
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He doesn't understand why Facebook did what it did.
